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  • bulldogsthru&thru
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • May 2011
    • 7637

    Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

    Originally posted by bornadog
    Says alot about the coach
    Well....the unpopular takes thread is talking about how Bevo lost his moment raising the cup but that's still not as bad as how Goodwin looked raising the trophy*.

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    • Bornadog
      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
      • Jan 2007
      • 65598

      Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

      Ch7 via Mitch Cleary reporting Lohmann wants to stay with Brisbane
      FFC: Established 1883

      Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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      • bulldogsthru&thru
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • May 2011
        • 7637

        Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

        Originally posted by bornadog
        Ch7 via Mitch Cleary reporting Lohmann wants to stay with Brisbane
        That's a bummer.

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        • GVGjr
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 43901

          Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

          Originally posted by bornadog
          Ch7 via Mitch Cleary reporting Lohmann wants to stay with Brisbane
          That's okay as Brisbane would have wanted more than he's really worth. It's hard to gauge where he really is as a player given Brisbane's strength with those mid sized forwards who also have a run in the midfield.

          We've had two goes at bringing him in so it's not meant to be.
          Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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          • G-Mo77
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Apr 2007
            • 9873

            Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

            Originally posted by bornadog
            Ch7 via Mitch Cleary reporting Lohmann wants to stay with Brisbane
            Even players not getting a game don't want to come here. Players not getting a game here can't wait to go.

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            • Grantysghost
              Bouncing Strong
              • Apr 2010
              • 18731

              Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

              Originally posted by G-Mo77
              Even players not getting a game don't want to come here. Players not getting a game here can't wait to go.
              I think there were a few Melbourne clubs interested, so that just shows the Lions are doing things well across the board.
              I'm sure Dunks sold us to him without prejudice
              BT COME BACK!​

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              • bulldogtragic
                The List Manager
                • Jan 2007
                • 34316

                Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                Originally posted by G-Mo77
                Even players not getting a game don't want to come here. Players not getting a game here can't wait to go.
                With the way we’ve finished the year and a heap of vacancies in important roles, I imagine it’s hard to pitch a compelling reason to leave…

                What’s left in the public domain now? Coffield who hasn’t played in two years? Croft awaiting a sit down with club to see where he fits in before nominating. Basically it sounds/feels like if he coach and this playing group can’t turn it around next year we are in trouble because the reinforcements aren’t coming.
                Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                • bulldogsthru&thru
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • May 2011
                  • 7637

                  Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                  Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                  With the way we’ve finished the year and a heap of vacancies in important roles, I imagine it’s hard to pitch a compelling reason to leave…

                  What’s left in the public domain now? Coffield who hasn’t played in two years? Croft awaiting a sit down with club to see where he fits in before nominating. Basically it sounds/feels like if he coach and this playing group can’t turn it around next year we are in trouble because the reinforcements aren’t coming.
                  Yeah if next year pans out like this year we're in strife. I think we've been too slow to react for a while now and that train is roaring straight at the club at 300kmh. The only saviour now is a richmond/Geelong esque turnaround ala 2017/2007.

                  We really need to hit the draft. It's our only way of getting decent players in the door.

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                  • bulldogtragic
                    The List Manager
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 34316

                    Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                    Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
                    Yeah if next year pans out like this year we're in strife. I think we've been too slow to react for a while now and that train is roaring straight at the club at 300kmh. The only saviour now is a richmond/Geelong esque turnaround ala 2017/2007.

                    We really need to hit the draft. It's our only way of getting decent players in the door.
                    I get the sense some clubs like to spear their cap around a lot of players, some stars and a lot of role players.

                    Our strategy looks like pay $1M+ to Bonts, Tim, Naughton and then say $700,000 or so to Lobb, JUH, Macrae, Smith & Adz. Then whatever scraps we have left cover Libba, L. Jones, Daniel. Then with our scraps try to put together a team of bargain basement players and hope they don’t get exposed (see McNeil, Baker, VDM, Poulter and old guys getting super top ups like Keath & Duryea).

                    If this is the strategy, they all need to fire all the time. Which they can’t. It’s kind of weird our club would throw a million at a ruckman (any one), a million for a KPD that has kicking issues and doesn’t return the bags of goals like a Curnow or Larkey, and huge money at a midfield which creates (I guess) a pressure to play in the midfield all the time which was a problem this year. I’d just love to know how the “invest two thirds of your salary cap in just a handful or so of players” strategy is a superior one.

                    I agree, the only way we will get top end players in the foreseeable future looks like drafting them to the club. In which case, just rebuild now and get it over with.
                    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                    • bulldogsthru&thru
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • May 2011
                      • 7637

                      Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                      Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                      I get the sense some clubs like to spear their cap around a lot of players, some stars and a lot of role players.

                      Our strategy looks like pay $1M+ to Bonts, Tim, Naughton and then say $700,000 or so to Lobb, JUH, Macrae, Smith & Adz. Then whatever scraps we have left cover Libba, L. Jones, Daniel. Then with our scraps try to put together a team of bargain basement players and hope they don’t get exposed (see McNeil, Baker, VDM, Poulter and old guys getting super top ups like Keath & Duryea).

                      If this is the strategy, they all need to fire all the time. Which they can’t. It’s kind of weird our club would throw a million at a ruckman (any one), a million for a KPD that has kicking issues and doesn’t return the bags of goals like a Curnow or Larkey, and huge money at a midfield which creates (I guess) a pressure to play in the midfield all the time which was a problem this year. I’d just love to know how the “invest two thirds of your salary cap in just a handful or so of players” strategy is a superior one.

                      I agree, the only way we will get top end players in the foreseeable future looks like drafting them to the club. In which case, just rebuild now and get it over with.
                      And now we're hearing the draft will be ultra compromised so that becomes even more difficult. We really need to nail our picks. If the rumours are true and the afel hands north pick 11 and they're free to trade up to gold coasts pick 4 I'm going to find it hard to keep watching this league.

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                      • The Doctor
                        Coaching Staff
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 3701

                        Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                        Cal Twomey has linked us to delisted Port ruckman Brynn Teakle. How sweet!
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                        • ledge
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 14029

                          Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                          Originally posted by The Doctor
                          Cal Twomey has linked us to delisted Port ruckman Brynn Teakle. How sweet!
                          It’s a bit like the Hunter, Baker scenario a wing for a wing and from same clubs.
                          Bring back the biff

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                          • Mofra
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 14797

                            Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                            Originally posted by mjp
                            But if the wingers are good, why aren?t they playing inside the game at u18 level...particularly if the inside mids are below par? Something is not right here.

                            The Coates league clubs have one mandate - get players drafted. So if they are abandoning the 2005s it doesn?t necessarily mean the 06?s have passed them...it DOES mean they still have hope for the 06?s though. U18 team selection is often agenda based not merit based.
                            They might be better suited to an outside role? Ollie Hollands has had an outstanding year this year.
                            Bad example but wasnt Cale Morton taken at pick 4 after the most outside u18 year for any to pick?
                            Some play multiple roles - Windsor forward, Freijah a bit of everywhere.

                            Just spitballing.
                            Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                            • Mofra
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Dec 2006
                              • 14797

                              Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                              Originally posted by The Doctor
                              Cal Twomey has linked us to delisted Port ruckman Brynn Teakle. How sweet!
                              I want us to have depth in the ruck from somewhere.
                              I guess his KPP form in the SANFL means he's versatile enough. I really haven't seen enough to say whether this is inherently good or bad.
                              Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                              • Axe Man
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 10874

                                Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                                Originally posted by The Doctor
                                Cal Twomey has linked us to delisted Port ruckman Brynn Teakle. How sweet!
                                I suggested this in the retirement/delisting thread yesterday, which one of you is Cal?

                                He is originally from WA, not sure if MJP ever came across him?

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