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  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 65598

    Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

    Originally posted by Grantysghost
    compensation, if there is - it should only be after the first round.
    I said that yesterday to Jon Ralph and he came back with:

    Should be after pick 6, 12 and 18 depending upon the size of the contract. That way it doesn’t encourage clubs to rort the system. Only truly massive offers result in top 5 compo picks
    I think we have said this over the years that compo should come from the team acquiring the player. why should all other teams be disadvantaged by having their pick down graded.
    FFC: Established 1883

    Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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    • macca
      Coaching Staff
      • Sep 2007
      • 2350

      Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

      Originally posted by bornadog
      Ben McKay has nominated Essendon as his new home.


      As a restricted free agent, North Melbourne has the right to match the bid.
      However, if it?s over 750k+ a year and enough to net first-round (pick 3) compo, expect the Roos to let him walk.
      Has any player become a better player in the last 7000 days Essendon have not won a final ?

      I can see him end up playing VFL in this last year

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      • Mofra
        Hall of Fame
        • Dec 2006
        • 14797

        Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

        Originally posted by Grantysghost
        Has mega Frawley vibes
        Frawley could actually lock down and was quicker than he appeared to be. I'd much prefer a prime Chips Frawley on our list than Ben McKay. Good player.
        Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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        • Grantysghost
          Bouncing Strong
          • Apr 2010
          • 18731

          Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

          Originally posted by Mofra
          Frawley could actually lock down and was quicker than he appeared to be. I'd much prefer a prime Chips Frawley on our list than Ben McKay. Good player.
          Ah yep agree. I wasn't that big on Frawley but he had some ability.
          Was more speaking to the compensation.
          BT COME BACK!​

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          • Twodogs
            Administrator
            • Nov 2006
            • 27646

            Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

            Originally posted by bornadog
            Trouble is the compo is linked to the salary.
            Genuine question. Is that an actual rule or more a rule of thumb?
            They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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            • jazzadogs
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Oct 2008
              • 5455

              Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

              Originally posted by Twodogs
              Genuine question. Is that an actual rule or more a rule of thumb?
              "it’s the constitution, it’s Mabo, it’s justice, it’s law, it’s the vibe and aah no that’s it, it’s the vibe. I rest my case."

              - Brady Rawlings, probably

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              • Bornadog
                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                • Jan 2007
                • 65598

                Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                Originally posted by Twodogs
                Genuine question. Is that an actual rule or more a rule of thumb?
                AFL make it up as they go along.
                FFC: Established 1883

                Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                • Twodogs
                  Administrator
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 27646

                  Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                  Originally posted by bornadog
                  AFL make it up as they go along.
                  Thought so. There's no actual measurable criteria they use
                  They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                  • Twodogs
                    Administrator
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 27646

                    Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                    Originally posted by jazzadogs
                    "it?s the constitution, it?s Mabo, it?s justice, it?s law, it?s the vibe and aah no that?s it, it?s the vibe. I rest my case."

                    - Brady Rawlings, probably
                    We can probably throw the Voice vote in there somewhere soon too.
                    They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                    • Bulldog Joe
                      Premiership Moderator
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 5435

                      Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                      Originally posted by bornadog
                      AFL make it up as they go along.
                      How could the AFL just make it up as they go?

                      They clearly have a defined formula that the simply can't share.

                      It is something along the lines

                      The compensation is dependent on the contract accepted.
                      The band is determined by that except where there is an overriding opportunity to either advantage the side losing the player and/or we just feel like doing something different in any particular instance.
                      It is written into the unwritten part of the AFL constitution to prevent the detail every being known and much less understood.

                      Additionally this can be adapted in any way if we have someone really ask nicely.
                      Life is to be Enjoyed not Endured

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                      • Bornadog
                        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 65598

                        Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                        Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
                        How could the AFL just make it up as they go?

                        They clearly have a defined formula that the simply can't share.

                        It is something along the lines

                        The compensation is dependent on the contract accepted.
                        The band is determined by that except where there is an overriding opportunity to either advantage the side losing the player and/or we just feel like doing something different in any particular instance.
                        It is written into the unwritten part of the AFL constitution to prevent the detail every being known and much less understood.

                        Additionally this can be adapted in any way if we have someone really ask nicely.
                        You nailed it
                        FFC: Established 1883

                        Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                        • Testekill
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2015
                          • 2327

                          Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                          Originally posted by Twodogs
                          Genuine question. Is that an actual rule or more a rule of thumb?
                          The compensation formula is so vague that the AFL can just say that Norf can get whatever and it'll be allowed.

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                          • Bulldog Joe
                            Premiership Moderator
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 5435

                            Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                            Originally posted by Testekill
                            The compensation formula is so vague that the AFL can just say that Norf can get whatever and it'll be allowed.
                            The formula is not vague.

                            It is x + y= z
                            X and y are the variables and z is the desired outcome..
                            Life is to be Enjoyed not Endured

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                            • Go_Dogs
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 10074

                              Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                              How many leg ups do NM and GC need. Also a simple formula:

                              n+1
                              Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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                              • macca
                                Coaching Staff
                                • Sep 2007
                                • 2350

                                Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                                Originally posted by Go_Dogs
                                How many leg ups do NM and GC need. Also a simple formula:

                                n+1
                                Where n = never know , never consistent

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