Essendon under AFL investigation regarding 2012 fitness program

[F'scary]

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Thank you Jeemak, I had not seen there was an article from former Liberal minister Amanda Truckboulder. All very interesting. Time will tell.

[Twodogs]

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Thank you Jeemak, I had not seen there was an article from former Liberal minister Amanda Truckboulder. All very interesting. Time will tell.

Worst of all she's probably a Crows supporter.



Now could we could get back to bagging Essendon again?

[Bulldog Joe]

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Worst of all she's probably a Crows supporter.

Actually on the board at Port Adelaide

[Bornadog]

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Hird Link to Dr Ageless

EXCLUSIVE

Shane Charter, Dr Ageless, outside the County Court this week. Photo: Wayne Taylor
ESSENDON coach James Hird was questioned by police in 2004 about a biochemist - known as Dr Ageless - who was later jailed for major drug offences and has been linked to the club's supplements program.

Fairfax Media can reveal that Hird and fellow Brownlow Medallist Shane Woewodin and other stars, including Bulldogs Luke Darcy, Scott West and Simon Garlick, were listed as prosecution witnesses for Shane Charter's trial in 2006.
It is believed the players' evidence was needed to rebut Charter's possible explanation that money seized, including more than $500,000 cash, came from legitimate work as a personal trainer and dietary adviser.

They were not ultimately called because Charter later pleaded guilty to charges of importing pseudoephedrine - with an estimated street-level value of between $13 million and $30 million - and ephedrine, trafficking a commercial quantity of pseudoephedrine and trafficking mostly steroid agents including testosterone and nandrolone.

He also agreed to become a Crown witness.
Hird said in a statement to police he used Charter as a consultant from December 2002, to advise on dietary and nutritional matters and had met him 10 to 15 times over a year.

He said Charter, recently linked to the provision of vitamin supplements to Essendon and its former sports science chief Stephen Dank, never recommended any product that was not publicly available over the counter at retail outlets.
Hird also stated that at no time did Charter offer, discuss or produce any illegal substances and had sought clearance of any product from the Australian Sports Drug Agency and the club. He said he paid Charter $4000 to $5000.
Fairfax Media can report today details of Charter's appearance after a court order imposed in 2007 that suppressed all information was lifted because a judge in the County Court ruled it was no longer necessary.

Charter, 45, unrepresented on Monday, opposed the application and on Wednesday his lawyer, Costas Killias, told Judge John Smallwood that alleged breaches of the order by Fairfax Media meant he could not pre-protect himself and his family from possible consequences of being revealed as a Crown witness.
Police at the time did not regard threats to Charter as seriously as he did.
Charter, a champion powerlifter, imported the pseudoephedrine, a precursor chemical for methamphetamine, from Malaysia between December 2003 and April 2004, while a salesman for a Port Melbourne pharmaceutical company.

He also trafficked steroid-based agents, that included testosterone and nandrolone.
A prosecutor told Judge Smallwood that some of the notes in his $500,000 were ''still damp and smelt of dirt indicating that the money had previously been buried''.
In his sentencing remarks, Judge Smallwood noted that the list of Crown witnesses included many ''notable footballers'' and he added: ''You clearly were very good at what you did and gave advice to high-powered people and organisations.''
But he reckoned why Charter started ''high order'' offending ''is beyond me'', and while greed was ''easy to say'' it appeared ''virtually none of the proceeds had been spent'' as there was no sign of ''enrichment''.

Charter was jailed for four years with a minimum of two years while a co-offender was also jailed but the man he implicated was acquitted.

The Western Bulldogs confirmed that its CEO Simon Garlick received ''limited advice'' from Charter that ''purely related to his nutrition and diet'' and there had been no further contact with him.
The Age could not reach Hird for comment.

[jeemak]

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This might be a timely reminder for some that the news can turn against you pretty quickly.........

[F'scary]

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Worst of all she's probably a Crows supporter.



Now could we could get back to bagging Essendon again?

Ok, now that this supplements scandal has broken, it explains why their players look like those high yield bovine breeds:

[LostDoggy]

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Actually on the board at Port Adelaide

I once had the immense pleasure of meeting her — and telling her she was a “useless twat” — when she visited my ship. It was worth the 21 days’ restriction of privileges/extra duties I copped.

[jeemak]

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I once had the immense pleasure of meeting her — and telling her she was a “useless twat” — when she visited my ship. It was worth the 21 days’ restriction of privileges/extra duties I copped.

Congratulations on improving the current political state of affairs within this country.

How did you view her article and comments?

[KT31]

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Just recieved a email with a flyer re: anti-doping from the AFL.
Reminding us that all players who play the game come under their Anti-doping laws.
Its the elite atheletes who are taking the suppliments and not your backyard footballers.
I can only speak from my clubs point of view, but would deal with this issue and others, alot more harshly than the the Spineless AFL.
They should worry about thier own backyard and not be concerned with ours.

[LostDoggy]

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Congratulations on improving the current political state of affairs within this country.

How did you view her article and comments?

I thought she had a point when talking about the political headline grabbing, yet aside from being on the board for Port Adelaide I fail to see why her opinion on the matter is important. Looks to me like headline grabbing.

[Bornadog]

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Dossier reveals full drugs program at Essendon

If this is true I wonder if Demitriou has the balls to throw the book at them?

[Remi Moses]

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The whole announcement was perhaps a little over the top.
Some in the "Boys Club" ( sorry media) have lambasted the whole process of the investigation.
Hello Mark Fine SEN
What's the difference between our athletes and the East German athletes of the 70's?
Both not knowing they were administering banned substances!
Of course their athletes were "cheats" and should be kicked out of sport.
Naturally Australian athletes "didn't know" what they were administering !
You bare the utmost responsibility of what goes in your body!!End of Story

[Eastdog]

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ASADA have not handled this investigation very well at all. If there is evidence that Essendon players have used they need to ban them to send the message that If you do this you will suffer the consequences.

[jeemak]

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ASADA have not handled this investigation very well at all. If there is evidence that Essendon players have used they need to ban them to send the message that If you do this you will suffer the consequences.

Eastdog, ASADA is awaiting the opportunity to interview Essendon playes as one of the final steps of their investigation. They can't penalise players/club etc until this aspect is completed, and there might be one or two more steps for them to take before they can say they have enough information to determine if banned substances were used.

[Eastdog]

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Eastdog, ASADA is awaiting the opportunity to interview Essendon playes as one of the final steps of their investigation. They can't penalise players/club etc until this aspect is completed, and there might be one or two more steps for them to take before they can say they have enough information to determine if banned substances were used.

Fair enough jeemak. Do you reckon though the media are making this bigger than it is.