ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

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  • Throughandthrough
    Coaching Staff
    • Nov 2007
    • 3204

    Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

    Essendon still acting outside whats acceptable to normal people.



    SANFL clubs are furious at Essendon going behind their backs with direct approaches to players to recruit them for the NAB Challenge competition and fear the loan will extend into the premiership season.

    Club chief executives have been called to a meeting with the SANFL on Wednesday where they will be briefed on the situation and how they have been dragged into the Essendon drugs saga.

    On Tuesday night Essendon announced the Eagles’ Jared Petrenko and North Adelaide’s Mitch Clisby had verbally committed to join its squad for the pre-season competition. Yet the Eagles immediately refuted the news and said no agreement had been reached.

    Norwood football manager Mark Ross also confirmed the Bombers had inquired about one of his players who he declined to name.

    It’s believed the inquiry may have been about either defender Alex Georgiou, ruckman Sam Baulderstone or midfielder Matthew Panos. Baulderstone trained with Essendon in the lead up to the 2013 draft but was overlooked.


    The Advertiser believes SANFL players have been offered $2000 a week, plus match payments and accommodation, and they are required to be in Melbourne by Friday.

    North Adelaide chief executive Greg Edwards was scathing that at 5pm when Essendon announced it had secured Clisby, the club had still not been contacted by the Bombers.

    But Edwards stressed it was no fault of Clisby - who was delisted by Melbourne and returned to North Adelaide over summer - and the Roosters would release him.

    “This morning Mitch Clisby gets a phone call from (list manager) Adrian Dodoro from Essendon without talking to us, in fact he still hasn’t spoken to the club,” Edwards said.

    “Mitch came straight to us and said ‘look Essendon have approached me, they want me to play NAB Cup games and maybe stay over.

    “Clisby said ‘I don’t know if I’ll be back because it might go into the start of the season.

    “We don’t support the fact that an AFL club can go and pick up one of our players in February, one of our leaders and take him over there, and we don’t have a date when he’s back.

    “It’s an absolute farce that you can take players out of a competition like ours, it’s just degrading our competition, it’s just despicable.”

    Woodville-West Torrens coach Michael Godden said he was disappointed that Essendon had contacted Petrenko - who returned to the Eagles after being delisted by the Crows last year - before speaking with the club.

    While the Eagles won’t stand in Petrenko’s way, Godden is concerned the arrangement may be longer than just the pre-season if Essendon players are banned.

    “We know Essendon contacted Jared (Petrenko) because Jared told us, and Essendon contacted us after the event,” Godden said.

    “But we actually don’t know anything in terms of details.

    “As a football club we would not stand in anyone’s way to better themselves, but the club and player’s best interests must be protected.

    “And right now we have zero information.”

    Asked whether he could confirm details of Essendon’s reported contract offer to state league players, Godden said he could not comment because he did not know.

    Essendon has been granted permission by the AFL to sign two players from any state league club for the pre-season competition to fill the void of players currently under investigation for its 2012 supplements program.

    Norwood football manager Mark Ross was contacted by Essendon just before 4pm on Tuesday about one of his players who he declined to name.

    Ross said the approach was only preliminary but the Redlegs would not stand in the player’s way if the offer became official.

    He said the Redlegs understood the loan would only be for one month, although they accepted there was a risk that it could extend into the premiership season and it was not an ideal situation for the reigning premier.

    “If a player is desperate to play in the AFL and they see this as an opportunity then we’re not going to stand in their way,” Ross said.

    Glenelg president Nick Chigwidden said to his knowledge, none of his players had been approached, but if they were the club would be hesitant to release them.

    “We’d be reluctant to be any part of it,” he said.

    “To be honest I struggle to see where the benefit would lie for us.”

    Chigwidden said if the Bombers were targeting emerging young players the club may look at it more favourably but he struggled to see anyone other than Essendon benefiting by loaning players fresh out of the AFL system.

    Essendon did not return calls to The Advertiser seeking comment.

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    • bulldogtragic
      The List Manager
      • Jan 2007
      • 34289

      Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

      Shit house. Why won't anyone with authority do anything?

      They're doing a footy behaviour akin to parking in disabled car spots all the time and not being warned let alone booked.
      Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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      • Dancin' Douggy
        WOOF Member
        • Oct 2007
        • 2876

        Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

        What a pack of complete and utter arseholes.
        I can't believe they have ANY power to negotiate or manipulate any situation.
        The whole football world has to bend over backwards so Essendon players don't risk getting a longer suspension??????????

        Why?????

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        • Twodogs
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 27664

          Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

          Originally posted by bulldogtragic
          Shit house. Why won't anyone with authority do anything?

          They're doing a footy behaviour akin to parking in disabled car spots all the time and not being warned let alone booked.
          Yep and when someone points it out to the ticket inspector they say "let's go and get their point of view before I issue a ticket." "But first I've gotta make a quick call."
          They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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          • bulldogtragic
            The List Manager
            • Jan 2007
            • 34289

            Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

            Originally posted by Twodogs
            Yep and when someone points it out to the ticket inspector they say "let's go and get their point of view before I issue a ticket." "But first I've gotta make a quick call."
            The extra player payments will further compromise their budget. I can see the AFL writing them out a massive cheque to bail them out of their own making. I've tried to not get overly annoyed about the situation, but enough is enough. The AFL talks about role models, but they themselves are role models to kids and adults. Their example sets a horrible role model on how to conduct one's responsibilities in difficult circumstances. But if they start handing out cash to them, I will lose my shit because as a solid citizen our club isn't being offered extra picks or millions of dollars but clubs breaking rules/laws are.
            Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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            • Greystache
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Dec 2009
              • 9775

              Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

              Originally posted by bulldogtragic
              The extra player payments will further compromise their budget. I can see the AFL writing them out a massive cheque to bail them out of their own making. I've tried to not get overly annoyed about the situation, but enough is enough. The AFL talks about role models, but they themselves are role models to kids and adults. Their example sets a horrible role model on how to conduct one's responsibilities in difficult circumstances. But if they start handing out cash to them, I will lose my shit because as a solid citizen our club isn't being offered extra picks or millions of dollars but clubs breaking rules/laws are.
              And in typical AFL fashion they've announced the additional player payments will have to be counted under Essendon's salary cap, and then in the same sentence, announce they will allow Essendon an increased salary cap given the exceptional circumstances.

              So basically;

              "Let us know how much all this is going to cost you and we'll increase your salary cup by that, no problem".

              The AFL really do treat the public like idiots.
              [COLOR="#FF0000"][B]Western Bulldogs:[/B][/COLOR] [COLOR="#0000CD"][B]We exist to win premierships[/B][/COLOR]

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              • bulldogtragic
                The List Manager
                • Jan 2007
                • 34289

                Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                Originally posted by Greystache
                And in typical AFL fashion they've announced the additional player payments will have to be counted under Essendon's salary cap, and then in the same sentence, announce they will allow Essendon an increased salary cap given the exceptional circumstances.

                So basically;

                "Let us know how much all this is going to cost you and we'll increase your salary cup by that, no problem".

                The AFL really do treat the public like idiots.
                'exceptional circumstances'.... WTF. Systemically breaching laws, codes, rules and making the situation worse for themselves is an EC.

                It's getting to point of incentivising breaching laws and rules. We were a rabble in October and got no money for it. Incompetence gets no money, but breaking laws and rules does. If Macca said 'tank' or take this unknown injection the club would've got millions.
                Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 67308

                  Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                  Gar Ayres has told Essendon to keep away from his players.
                  FFC: Established 1883

                  Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                  • westdog54
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 6686

                    Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                    Originally posted by bornadog
                    Gar Ayres has told Essendon to keep away from his players.
                    And given how many good quality VFL level players who meet the criteria are on Port's list, it seems an obvious hunting ground. Dan Connors immediately springs to mind.

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                    • Happy Days
                      Hall of Fame
                      • May 2008
                      • 10204

                      Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                      Originally posted by bornadog
                      Gar Ayres has told Essendon to keep away from his players.
                      But has he thrown his hat in the ring to coach?
                      - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                      • jeemak
                        Bulldog Legend
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 22010

                        Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                        Originally posted by Happy Days
                        But has he thrown his hat in the ring to coach?
                        The club should be approached alongside the players if EFC wants to engage them.

                        Just because he has a magnificent head of hair, it doesn't give him the right to deprive his players an opportunity to play at the highest level.
                        TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                        • Happy Days
                          Hall of Fame
                          • May 2008
                          • 10204

                          Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                          Originally posted by jeemak
                          The club should be approached alongside the players if EFC wants to engage them.

                          Just because he has a magnificent head of hair, it doesn't give him the right to deprive his players an opportunity to play at the highest level.
                          Port will probably pay them more.
                          - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                          • 1eyedog
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 13312

                            Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                            Originally posted by Happy Days
                            Port will probably pay them more.
                            Will need to be significantly more to stop VFL players having an opportunity to play on an AFL stage. It's every players dream.
                            But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                            • Maddog37
                              WOOF Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 3132

                              Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                              Originally posted by jeemak
                              The club should be approached alongside the players if EFC wants to engage them.

                              Just because he has a magnificent head of hair, it doesn't give him the right to deprive his players an opportunity to play at the highest level.

                              At the end of the day it's your Connors and your Pinwells and your Galeas that need to make the decisions.

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                              • Bornadog
                                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 67308

                                Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                                Originally posted by Maddog37
                                At the end of the day it's your Connors and your Pinwells and your Galeas that need to make the decisions.
                                But if they have a contract with the club, then permission is required
                                FFC: Established 1883

                                Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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