ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

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  • Go_Dogs
    Hall of Fame
    • Jan 2007
    • 10152

    Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

    Originally posted by anfo27
    Now that is a figure I was hoping for!
    I'm just reading the judgment, they had 2 QC's and another fairly experienced counsel, I think $1m would be excessive, but that could indeed be the ballpark.

    Wonder what the total bill for the whole saga is up to now?
    Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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    • SonofScray
      Coaching Staff
      • Apr 2008
      • 4234

      Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

      Hopefully they have to rattle tins. And those tin remain empty.
      Time and Tide Waits For No Man

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      • westdog54
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Jan 2007
        • 6686

        Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

        I'm sure it's not over yet. Essendon are pig headed enough to continue to drag this out through appeal after appeal.

        Surely there must be an Essendon person out there with the influence and courage to bring on a board spill and end this madness.

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        • Bornadog
          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
          • Jan 2007
          • 66688

          Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

          Originally posted by westdog54
          I'm sure it's not over yet. Essendon are pig headed enough to continue to drag this out through appeal after appeal.

          Surely there must be an Essendon person out there with the influence and courage to bring on a board spill and end this madness.

          That is why the AFL must use its powers and take this off Essendon for the good of the game. This needs to be resolved one way or the other or it will drag on for years with court cases, players suing the club etc etc.
          FFC: Established 1883

          Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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          • SonofScray
            Coaching Staff
            • Apr 2008
            • 4234

            Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

            Originally posted by bornadog
            That is why the AFL must use its powers and take this off Essendon for the good of the game. This needs to be resolved one way or the other or it will drag on for years with court cases, players suing the club etc etc.
            Just remove them from the competition.
            Time and Tide Waits For No Man

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            • GVGjr
              Moderator
              • Nov 2006
              • 44622

              Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

              Originally posted by Sedat
              About $1 million is what I'm hearing
              Hirds is being reported at 500K
              Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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              • Bornadog
                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                • Jan 2007
                • 66688

                Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                Originally posted by SonofScray
                Just remove them from the competition.
                Lets be realistic, that won't happen even if they deserve it.
                FFC: Established 1883

                Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                • ledge
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 14303

                  Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                  I still can't see how Hird can coach next year but one things for sure he won't leave if his own accord, and thus get another million pay out for next years coaching contract.
                  Bring back the biff

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                  • Nuggety Back Pocket
                    WOOF Member
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 2064

                    Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                    We should not forget that the Essendon players have been the innocent victims in this long drawn out saga. It is time for Little and Hird to move on to clear the air in what has been an absolute disgrace.

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                    • LostDoggy
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 8307

                      Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                      Originally posted by Nuggety Back Pocket
                      We should not forget that the Essendon players have been the innocent victims in this long drawn out saga. It is time for Little and Hird to move on to clear the air in what has been an absolute disgrace.
                      Agree nurture over nature with the players participation with this? While I hope the AFL throws the book at Essendon the club, I equally hope they do everything in their power to support the innocent players. (alright I wouldn't necessarily squeal if they confiscate Jobe's Brownlow!!!)

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                      • Bornadog
                        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 66688

                        Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                        Originally posted by Murphy Contradicts Law
                        Agree nurture over nature with the players participation with this? While I hope the AFL throws the book at Essendon the club, I equally hope they do everything in their power to support the innocent players. (alright I wouldn't necessarily squeal if they confiscate Jobe's Brownlow!!!)
                        But they have already punished the Club.

                        Hird, and the board must resign, a deal needs to be done with ASADA on the show cause notices which must include players not to take further action in the courts, and the whole thing is to be made history as it is tarnishing the whole AFL.
                        FFC: Established 1883

                        Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                        • jeemak
                          Bulldog Legend
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 21817

                          Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                          Why would Paul Little resign for doing what the members wanted of him?

                          Sure, I can understand the club having to get the broom out to get rid of those involved with the actual actions in question, but the remaining board members have carried out the wishes of the membership which is what they're responsible for as board members.
                          TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                          • Before I Die
                            Senior Player
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 1031

                            Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                            Originally posted by bornadog
                            But they have already punished the Club.

                            Hird, and the board must resign, a deal needs to be done with ASADA on the show cause notices which must include players not to take further action in the courts, and the whole thing is to be made history as it is tarnishing the whole AFL.
                            Please, no deals. Follow due process.

                            The players give their full support to the investigation and hold nothing back and they get the available discounts. They do their time and we all move on. Talk of deals is counterproductive and it will just undermine Australian sport's credibility and force WADA to get involved.
                            The Angels have the phone box. [SIZE="2"]Don't blink![/SIZE]

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                            • GVGjr
                              Moderator
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 44622

                              Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                              Originally posted by jeemak
                              Why would Paul Little resign for doing what the members wanted of him?

                              Sure, I can understand the club having to get the broom out to get rid of those involved with the actual actions in question, but the remaining board members have carried out the wishes of the membership which is what they're responsible for as board members.
                              I can't see why he would resign. He has to try and dig them out of this mess or get a reasonable compromise.
                              Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                              • FrediKanoute
                                Coaching Staff
                                • Aug 2007
                                • 3826

                                Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                                Whilst its nice to play the players as innocent victims in all of this they aren't. Every player knows that they have an obligation to make sure that what they put into their body is legitimate and within the ASADA/WADA guidelines. Whilst there may be grounds that the players were coerced and that their employer did not take reasonable care, the fact remains that they potentially ingested substances that would/should have given them an advantage over other teams.

                                I for one believe that ASADA should just proceed. Appeal or no appeal, unless Essendon get an injunction preventing the ASADA's show cause notices from applying, the process should continue. I can't see an injunction being granted. In my mind players who co-operate and provide information which is helpful to ASADA should be given reduced bans. The reductions should work on a sliding scale so that the first to co-operate get a more reduction than the last and in that case I would be applying extreme pressure on Cameri to co-operate!

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