ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

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  • boydogs
    WOOF Member
    • Apr 2009
    • 5844

    Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

    Originally posted by bulldogtragic
    all the players were asked by ASADA testers if they had anything to declare (which they did) and every player said "no"
    This is one of the things Peter Gordon is contesting, this doesn't apply to all the players
    If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

    Formerly gogriff

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    • Bulldog4life
      WOOF Member
      • Oct 2007
      • 9607

      Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

      Originally posted by merantau
      Get ready for a lot of finger pointing, arm waving and gesticulating.
      Is Shaun Higgins coming back?

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      • westdog54
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Jan 2007
        • 6686

        Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

        Originally posted by Twodogs
        That's not how the law works. You don't need to prove your innocence. The other side need to prove you are guilty.
        Criminal law, yes and rightly so.

        This is not criminal law. This is a civil matter and to apply a criminal burden of proof in this setting does more injustice to those who play fair.

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        • KT31
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Jul 2008
          • 5454

          Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

          Is Hird eligible to play for Essendon ?
          The irony and feed to his ego would be everything the narcissist *%$# could dream of.
          It's better to die on our feet than live on our knees.

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          • SonofScray
            Coaching Staff
            • Apr 2008
            • 4234

            Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

            Originally posted by merantau
            Get ready for a lot of finger pointing, arm waving and gesticulating.
            Shaun Higgins playing for EFC?
            Time and Tide Waits For No Man

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            • Bornadog
              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
              • Jan 2007
              • 66687

              Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

              Crameri and Prismall possible appeal.

              see story here
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              • Greystache
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Dec 2009
                • 9775

                Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                Essendon fined $200K plus $20K in legal fees for work Work Safe breaches.

                Really only a slap on the wrist compared to what they've blown already.
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                • LostDoggy
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 8307

                  Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                  Originally posted by Greystache
                  Essendon fined $200K plus $20K in legal fees for work Work Safe breaches.

                  Really only a slap on the wrist compared to what they've blown already.
                  Biggest financial whacks are still to come also.

                  For mine, the Work Safe side of this fiasco really isn't about the financial penalties. Imagine if it was our club that was charged for failing to provide a safe workplace for the young men that are our biggest assets though, and we were so obviously guilty that we didn't even mount an argument to contest the charges?

                  We'd hound out everyone responsible at the earliest possible chance.

                  Essendon denied and supported those it knew to be guilty of neglectful, even abusive, treatment of the young men in their care.

                  That stain will linger for a long, long time.

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                  • bulldogtragic
                    The List Manager
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 34289

                    Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                    Essendon hit with a couple of hundred thousand dollar fine and ordered to pay all legal costs on top. Good.
                    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                    • 1eyedog
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 13235

                      Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                      Originally posted by Greystache
                      Essendon fined $200K plus $20K in legal fees for work Work Safe breaches.

                      Really only a slap on the wrist compared to what they've blown already.
                      Yes but it is the implication of the work safe breach more than anything else that has the potential to damage the brand and bring them financially to their knees at the hands of litigious (ex)players.
                      But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                      • bulldogtragic
                        The List Manager
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 34289

                        Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                        So WorkSafe has $200,000 of Essendon's money. WorkSafe use their money to sponsor us. Perhaps we could cut the middleman out and just have Essendon FC sponsor us

                        When you point it out to Essendon folks that their WorkSafe fine in some part is funding our club, just enjoy the moment of pure joy.
                        Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                        • LostDoggy
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 8307

                          Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                          Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                          So WorkSafe has $200,000 of Essendon's money. WorkSafe use their money to sponsor us. Perhaps we could cut the middleman out and just have Essendon FC sponsor us

                          When you point it out to Essendon folks that their WorkSafe fine in some part is funding our club, just enjoy the moment of pure joy.
                          I've heard we've had a number of Bombers fans come over to us as well. Geez my heart goes out to that club

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                          • azabob
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 15302

                            Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                            Originally posted by PeanutsPeanuts
                            I've heard we've had a number of Bombers fans come over to us as well. Geez my heart goes out to that club
                            Really? I can't see how or why supporters would change clubs? I understand not supporting a club anymore but to consiously change clubs? I just don't understand it.
                            More of an In Bruges guy?

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                            • Twodogs
                              Moderator
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 27654

                              Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                              Originally posted by azabob
                              Really? I can't see how or why supporters would change clubs? I understand not supporting a club anymore but to consiously change clubs? I just don't understand it.

                              yep. roll your sleeves up and fix the club you barrack for already.
                              They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                              • 1eyedog
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 13235

                                Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                                Originally posted by azabob
                                Really? I can't see how or why supporters would change clubs? I understand not supporting a club anymore but to consiously change clubs? I just don't understand it.
                                Yeah it sounds like a long straw that one. Almost every Fitzroy and most South Melbourne supporters I know are neutral.
                                But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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