List Management 2015

[LostDoggy]

Re: List Management 2015

Luenberger has played one good game in 3 years, i wouldnt be in a rush to pick him up

[Rocco Jones]

Re: List Management 2015

I think we should have a crack at Leuenberger as a FA this year. He has the potential to be an elite ruckman. That would give us one of the best ruck combo's in the league imo.

Don't understand the love for this bloke. What has he done...when he's actually managed to get on the park?

Thinking the same thing .
He had a great game as the main man on Sandi.
They've got Martin as number one, and I think Luenberger thrives on being the main ruck.

I just think like a lot of rucks he needs to be number one .
Seems a host of ruckman don't handle the 20 % ruck and 80 % forward .

Luenberger has played one good game in 3 years, i wouldnt be in a rush to pick him up

I think Leunberger is the perfect moneyball-esque signing.

It's funny when fans want to trade a player from their team, it's when they couldn't be struggling more. When they want someone from another team, it's when that guy is flying. Both pretty bad practices in the stockmarket that is trading.

If I was a list manager I would look at guys who are being devalued by something that suits us/easily changeable. Two 1st rucks at the same club is right at the top of the list in trade value.

Martin and Leunberger are clearly 1st rucks. Stef Martin is one of the best ruckman in the AFL at the moment, which means Leunberger has to be in a role that is alien to him. His trade value is heavily influenced by a role that isn't suited to him and a role we will not play him in.

That 'one good game' amongst a couple of years of trash actually goes towards getting him. He is poor as a 2nd ruck, which lowers his trade value. Is it a coincidence his one good game comes when he plays where he belongs? I really hope Martin doesn't get injured and Leunberger keeps sticking it up in the 2nd ruck role.

[Twodogs]

Re: List Management 2015

I think Leunberger is the perfect moneyball-esque signing.

It's funny when fans want to trade a player from their team, it's when they couldn't be struggling more. When they want someone from another team, it's when that guy is flying. Both pretty bad practices in the stockmarket that is trading.

If I was a list manager I would look at guys who are being devalued by something that suits us/easily changeable. Two 1st rucks at the same club is right at the top of the list in trade value.

Martin and Leunberger are clearly 1st rucks. Stef Martin is one of the best ruckman in the AFL at the moment, which means Leunberger has to be in a role that is alien to him. His trade value is heavily influenced by a role that isn't suited to him and a role we will not play him in.

That 'one good game' amongst a couple of years of thrash actually goes towards getting him. He is poor as a 2nd ruck, which lowers his trade value. Is it a coincidence his one good game comes when he plays where he belongs? I really hope Martin doesn't get injured and Leunberger keeps sticking it up in the 2nd ruck role.

Nicely said Rocco. Buy low, sell high is the idea.

[Maddog37]

Re: List Management 2015

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I think Leunberger is the perfect moneyball-esque signing.

It's funny when fans want to trade a player from their team, it's when they couldn't be struggling more. When they want someone from another team, it's when that guy is flying. Both pretty bad practices in the stockmarket that is trading.

If I was a list manager I would look at guys who are being devalued by something that suits us/easily changeable. Two 1st rucks at the same club is right at the top of the list in trade value.

Martin and Leunberger are clearly 1st rucks. Stef Martin is one of the best ruckman in the AFL at the moment, which means Leunberger has to be in a role that is alien to him. His trade value is heavily influenced by a role that isn't suited to him and a role we will not play him in.

That 'one good game' amongst a couple of years of trash actually goes towards getting him. He is poor as a 2nd ruck, which lowers his trade value. Is it a coincidence his one good game comes when he plays where he belongs? I really hope Martin doesn't get injured and Leunberger keeps sticking it up in the 2nd ruck role.

He is a free agent so no trade needed.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: List Management 2015

Provided Majak Daw isn't found guilty of rape in his upcoming trial and the club was happy enough with his character etc, would he be an upgrade on Ayce. I can see him asking for a trade and seems as moneyball-esq.

[G-Mo77]

Re: List Management 2015

Provided Majak Daw isn't found guilty of rape in his upcoming trial and the club was happy enough with his character etc, would he be an upgrade on Ayce. I can see him asking for a trade and seems as moneyball-esq.

Better off with Ayce IMO. I don't see anything in Daw.

[Greystache]

Re: List Management 2015

Provided Majak Daw isn't found guilty of rape in his upcoming trial and the club was happy enough with his character etc, would he be an upgrade on Ayce. I can see him asking for a trade and seems as moneyball-esq.

I think he'd be a downgrade from Cordy for Footscray.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: List Management 2015

Harley Bennell and GCS are widely tipped to part. If we think his mistakes are behind him would he suit the brief of outside running talent? I think he's got the talent at a price of late first round to early second, so there might need to be tinkering or player involved going back.

[Rocco Jones]

Re: List Management 2015

He is a free agent so no trade needed.

Wow, even better. I guess the same reasons come into contract negotiations. We can get him on the cheap as his value has been decreased via playing out of position.

[Bornadog]

Re: List Management 2015

Harley Bennell and GCS are widely tipped to part. If we think his mistakes are behind him would he suit the brief of outside running talent? I think he's got the talent at a price of late first round to early second, so there might need to be tinkering or player involved going back.

You would imagine he would head back to the west.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: List Management 2015

You would imagine he would head back to the west.

You'd hope not for his health sake. Not the kind of culture that seems to help in these times.

[Remi Moses]

Re: List Management 2015

Provided Majak Daw isn't found guilty of rape in his upcoming trial and the club was happy enough with his character etc, would he be an upgrade on Ayce. I can see him asking for a trade and seems as moneyball-esq.

They'd need to pay us for Majak.
Just not up to it, but he's a victim of a few petulant types up forward.

[G-Mo77]

Re: List Management 2015

Harley Bennell and GCS are widely tipped to part. If we think his mistakes are behind him would he suit the brief of outside running talent? I think he's got the talent at a price of late first round to early second, so there might need to be tinkering or player involved going back.

IF. If his problems are all behind him then I'd be all over him. The kids a gun.

That is a huge IF though.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Re: List Management 2015

No to Bennell. Discounting his off-field issues, he doesn't work hard enough on it. Plenty of ability but he's overrated on that alone, little to no defensive game and a huge downhill skier.

No to Leuy - just don't really rate him, but if we signed him for effectively nothing (Free Agency) I could live with it.

[Remi Moses]

Re: List Management 2015

It's pretty hard to rate Luenberger in that he's been injured and also isn't the number 1 ruck in his side.
If he keeps performing with Martin out he's stocks will rise quickly.