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  • mjp
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2007
    • 7296

    Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

    Originally posted by Mofra
    I don't think Schache will be anywhere near as good as his draft ranking suggests but he's likely to be better than pick 11 this draft and draft watchers say he's ahead of the best tall forward in this draft (Brander) with two pre-seasons under his belt too.
    I don't want to just argue for the sake of arguing but my concern - and I am sure that of the clubs who are saying 'NO' - is that the questions about his competitiveness hovered over him during his draft year as well. Does he believe in himself and does he want to show everyone else that he is a capable footballer. Doing things like refusing to play in the NEAFL GF do not send a good message - however 'admirable' his reasons might have appeared, coaches coach, players play and most importantly, players WANT TO play and impact on the contest.

    All the commentary around Hipwood is interesting because his numbers are pretty poor - but he passes the eye test in that he plays with a bit of passion and urgency. The issue with Schache is that to so many people who have watched him play the numbers might be OK (I see a lot of people quoting 2016 stats) but he does NOT pass the eye test.

    I get it - not everyone can play like a 'beast' at 20 years of age (which is why a guy like Hogan is such a rareity) but you want to see signs that he gets it, see him attack the contest etc.

    Anyway - what do I know. After watching Bontempelli in the national champs I couldn't believe we would have even considered him at pick 4...
    What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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    • Mofra
      Hall of Fame
      • Dec 2006
      • 14861

      Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

      Originally posted by mjp
      Anyway - what do I know. After watching Bontempelli in the national champs I couldn't believe we would have even considered him at pick 4...
      Well I do remember you being all over some kid called Nate who slipped to Freo with an early 20s pick.

      I'm certainly not suggesting we go all out for Schache but if his value slips to the point where he is gettable it can't hurt to meet him and have serious discussions.
      I would have said a flat out no given the original talk of two first rounders but if our plan going into 2018 and beyond is to have at least one player in the front half of the ground who is our "get out" kick down the line and we then continue to scrounge goals via contested work (perhaps still a necessity given the state of the list Bevo inherited) then a 200cm type who gets tot he right spots fits in with that philosophy.

      Personally I'd like a smaller leading forward with the tank to cover ground across the higher forward area (traditional mobile CHFish type) but we fluffed the last chance to grab one (Curnow, pick 11) and I don't think there's anyone worthy at the draft this year who can play that role with any semblance of certainty.
      There's Brander (gone before our pick, question marks) then it seems a bunch of tall utilities with no set position yet.
      Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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      • EasternWest
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Aug 2009
        • 9988

        Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

        Originally posted by Twodogs
        Yeah that's all ok but what is Schache's singing voice like?
        He's bound for glory.
        "It's over. It's all over."

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        • The Doctor
          Coaching Staff
          • Jan 2007
          • 3702

          Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

          Tom Campbell or Zac Clarke?

          Who would be the better fit for us?
          Listening to Brahm's 3rd Racket

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          • Mofra
            Hall of Fame
            • Dec 2006
            • 14861

            Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

            Originally posted by The Doctor
            Tom Campbell or Zac Clarke?

            Who would be the better fit for us?
            I like big Soup, Clarke had a great year a few years ago (2012?) but I don't think his body can stand up to AFL football anymore.
            Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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            • The Doctor
              Coaching Staff
              • Jan 2007
              • 3702

              Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

              Sam Gibson, any interest for a rookie list spot, Adcock style?
              Listening to Brahm's 3rd Racket

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              • Happy Days
                Hall of Fame
                • May 2008
                • 10070

                Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                Originally posted by The Doctor
                Sam Gibson, any interest for a rookie list spot, Adcock style?
                Absolutely not.
                - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                • GVGjr
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 44191

                  Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                  Originally posted by The Doctor
                  Sam Gibson, any interest for a rookie list spot, Adcock style?
                  If we have 2 spots already taken (NMM and Lynch) I'm not sure we have room for him.

                  This is a deep draft and I think we could get some good prospects with our two rookie list spots
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                  • Bulldog4life
                    WOOF Member
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 9607

                    Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                    Lynch in play?

                    Also on SEN this morning, noted former list manager Chris Pelchen claimed that Gold Coast skipper Tom Lynch is in play.
                    “We’ve heard the rumour and innuendo, obviously the clubs involved, whether it be with Tom Lynch or others who have got key players, they don’t want to lose them," he told the SEN breakfast show.

                    “Certainly I have heard discussions around two or three clubs are speaking with him right now.”

                    Pelchen said the situation was similar to Hawthorn's successful courting of Shaun Burgoyne, which took place over a couple of years before he finally made the move at the end of 2009

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                    • bulldogtragic
                      The List Manager
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 34316

                      Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                      Originally posted by Bulldog4life
                      Lynch in play?

                      Also on SEN this morning, noted former list manager Chris Pelchen claimed that Gold Coast skipper Tom Lynch is in play.
                      “We’ve heard the rumour and innuendo, obviously the clubs involved, whether it be with Tom Lynch or others who have got key players, they don’t want to lose them," he told the SEN breakfast show.

                      “Certainly I have heard discussions around two or three clubs are speaking with him right now.”

                      Pelchen said the situation was similar to Hawthorn's successful courting of Shaun Burgoyne, which took place over a couple of years before he finally made the move at the end of 2009

                      http://www.afl.com.au/news/trade/trade-talk
                      Throw the kitchen sink at.
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                      • Rocket Science
                        Coaching Staff
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 4849

                        Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                        If that's true it might explain the supposed tepid interest in Schache, for the time being anyway.
                        BORDERLINE FLYING

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                        • mjp
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 7296

                          Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                          Gold Coast should trade Lynch for a bounty. 1+2 this year, 1 next year and a best 22 player.
                          What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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                          • Remi Moses
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 14785

                            Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                            Originally posted by mjp
                            Gold Coast should trade Lynch for a bounty. 1+2 this year, 1 next year and a best 22 player.
                            Should we do it ?

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                            • Happy Days
                              Hall of Fame
                              • May 2008
                              • 10070

                              Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                              Originally posted by Remi Moses
                              Should we do it ?
                              So 9, 26, ~10-15 (or 18 why not) and Williams?

                              Geez I dunno. That's a lot.

                              I'd be more inclined to offer a "good" player and 9. Dahl and 9?
                              - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                              • Rocket Science
                                Coaching Staff
                                • Oct 2007
                                • 4849

                                Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                                Originally posted by Happy Days
                                So 9, 26, ~10-15 (or 18 why not) and Williams?

                                Geez I dunno. That's a lot.

                                I'd be more inclined to offer a "good" player and 9. Dahl and 9?
                                We couldn't run away fast enough from that one.
                                BORDERLINE FLYING

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