Tim English and the ruck dilemma

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  • GVGjr
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 44635

    He's had a steady and a consistent season.
    He's proving to be a factor up forward as well.
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    • Aidan7557
      Rookie List
      • Jan 2025
      • 160

      Originally posted by GVGjr
      He's had a steady and a consistent season.
      He's proving to be a factor up forward as well.
      Such a barometer. Can't remember a game we lost when he played really well but when he has a shocker we seem to struggle.

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      • macca
        Coaching Staff
        • Sep 2007
        • 2366

        Tim had a superb game on thursday and toweld up briggs.

        One thing I did notice that he got a heap of free kicks against Briggs. Was it something he did differently ? Or Briggs is just a snipper who likes to hold and block ?

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        • Bornadog
          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
          • Jan 2007
          • 66702

          Originally posted by macca
          Tim had a superb game on thursday and toweld up briggs.

          One thing I did notice that he got a heap of free kicks against Briggs. Was it something he did differently ? Or Briggs is just a snipper who likes to hold and block ?
          Yes.
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          Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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          • Axe Man
            Hall of Fame
            • Nov 2008
            • 11166

            Originally posted by macca
            Tim had a superb game on thursday and toweld up briggs.

            One thing I did notice that he got a heap of free kicks against Briggs. Was it something he did differently ? Or Briggs is just a snipper who likes to hold and block ?
            He's had the better of the umpiring all season with 42 frees for and 24 against. Opposition rucks are often attempting to block his leap. Obviously not all would be in ruck contests but I'm guessing the majority are.

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            • doggies ftw
              Draftee
              • Dec 2013
              • 722

              Originally posted by macca
              Tim had a superb game on thursday and toweld up briggs.

              One thing I did notice that he got a heap of free kicks against Briggs. Was it something he did differently ? Or Briggs is just a snipper who likes to hold and block ?
              I noticed earlier in the year he was getting more frees, I think it’s because this year he’s been way more proactive in the ruck contest. Been one of my biggest gripes of his over the years that he never really tried to use his athleticism to take front position or battle to get in position to use his height, he just seemed keen to grappple and inevitably lose out to the bigger guys. This year he’s been much much better at that and I think it’s spooking the oppo big men a little bit and they’re resorting to illegal blocks & scrags to stop him.

              Has had a great year

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              • macca
                Coaching Staff
                • Sep 2007
                • 2366

                The reason I noticed the frees For with English, is he got caught out a few times with Grundy and Meek in those games. Maybe its biased umpring? Maybe against the bigger stronger ruckman he can't get front position or hold his position ????

                But thanks for highlighting those stats and Insights Axeman/doggies_ftw.

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                • comrade
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 18029

                  I think this has been his best year ever in terms of ruck work. I really liked how he worked Briggs over and drove him to deeper waters inside 50. He’ll need to bring his A game this week.
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                  • Bornadog
                    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 66702

                    Originally posted by comrade
                    I think this has been his best year ever in terms of ruck work. I really liked how he worked Briggs over and drove him to deeper waters inside 50. He’ll need to bring his A game this week.
                    Gawn still the best ruck in the AFL for mine.
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                    Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                    • Garbs_7
                      Rookie List
                      • Jan 2025
                      • 129

                      Tim has been really really good this season since a slowish start over the first month. Had some dominant games and absolutely ran Briggs ragged around the ground and beat him up in the air marking the footy.

                      I'm very happy he's our ruck

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                      • Rusty12
                        Draftee
                        • Dec 2024
                        • 592

                        6th in the pound4pound ratings, and leading the 3rd level.
                        I think that is fair and reflective of his season.
                        Bont and Darcy are coming; however, any which way you cook it, he is a top 10 player for us this year.

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                        • Mofra
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 14950

                          Originally posted by Rusty12
                          6th in the pound4pound ratings, and leading the 3rd level.
                          I think that is fair and reflective of his season.
                          Bont and Darcy are coming; however, any which way you cook it, he is a top 10 player for us this year.
                          Whenever he wins his position we win the game.

                          He is at his best running off his opponent and getting involved in possession chains. Running forward last week he absolutely took Briggs to the cleaners.
                          Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                          • my plums
                            Rookie List
                            • Aug 2022
                            • 156

                            Huge game for The Big Chill on Sunday. He seems to have put a few demons to bed this year. Hopefully he can do so on the weekend against Big Maxy and the Melbourne Demons....

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                            • angelopetraglia
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 6842

                              Agree. Massive game for Time. We need him at his best.

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                              • The Adelaide Connection
                                Coaching Staff
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 2782

                                Not on Tim, but I love that we are now leaving Darcy forward for longer and instead pulling Lobb into the ruck.

                                I bet every opposition team loved when Darcy was out of the forward line.

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