Jamarra Ugle-Hagan

[NAUGHTY100]

Many of us wouldn't understand all the legal ramifications of terminating Jamarra's contract for next season but we have enough legal experts at the club to make the correct decisions.
Jamarra has progressively minimised his trade value over the last 12 months and along with it he has reduced his ow financial security and value.
A lot of that is just on him.

We are at the point where this is more or less a write off and we have to minimise the damage.
That's going to piss off a lot of supporters who will not want to see him paid out in any capacity and for others they won't want to see him at another club and would be happy to see him stand out of football

I feel we won't be able to satisfy everyone with whatever compromise is reached. It's a classic no win situation.

It sure is a no win situation , we have to end this one way or another , and i agree with doggies ftw , if we have to pay any part of his salary while he runs around with Gold Coast , i will be livid .
Surely the AFL has to step in and do something and i know im probably clutching at straws , but this saga with Marra is a total disgrace , i have been a big supporter of Marra's , but its gone , his gone to far , showing up to training when it suited him , not playing a single game and all along the club the leadership group have bent over backwards to help him , and he has turned on them .
Marra has lead the high life nightclubbing being out at all hours , and as far as i know hasn't really tried to get back to being a AFL footballer , now his on the Gold Coast saying this is a nice holiday spot , for f___ sake , this is so wrong , the AFL need to step in and compensate us , because whats to stop a Curnow , Oliver , Petracca , doing the same thing , playing the mental problems card and being payed by their clubs , not playing and then saying i want to play for whoever and leaving , its a big big pandora's box possibly being opened .

[GVGjr]

It sure is a no win situation , we have to end this one way or another , and i agree with doggies ftw , if we have to pay any part of his salary while he runs around with Gold Coast , i will be livid .

I do get the frustration but just on that very point that I have highlighted, what are acceptable outcomes for you (and others)?

1) Do you want him terminated without pay?
This likely means he goes anywhere else like Geelong or Collingwood and we get nothing plus we have to deal with any legal disputes that might follow.
2) We pay part of his salary to get him away from the club with a potential to get something back in terms of a draft pick from another club?
3) We keep him on the playing list and pay out his contract while he effectively stands out of football for another year?
4) The AFL de-rigsters him as a player and his only chance of a return is via the MSD? I don't know if this is possible.
5) Add whatever else you think is is a better solution.

[kickit2Koly]

Apparently Jamarra was asked by security to leave a local Warrnambool game a couple of weeks ago due to behaviour.

He's a ****ing idiot.

He really can't stop stepping on his own dick can he?!

I really hope he gets it together and has a great career but his lack of self awareness is quite remarkable.

[Bornadog]

He really can't stop stepping on his own dick can he?!

I really hope he gets it together and has a great career but his lack of self awareness is quite remarkable.

so immature

[Hotdog60]

He was placed under the care of the AFL so they can pay next year's wage and gift wrap him to their love child.

[GVGjr]

He was placed under the care of the AFL so they can pay next year's wage and gift wrap him to their love child.

His medical return was being managed by the AFL, I doubt it is to the extent with them taking on his contract. Hopefully you are right.

[Uninformed]

I do get the frustration but just on that very point that I have highlighted, what are acceptable outcomes for you (and others)?

1) Do you want him terminated without pay?
This likely means he goes anywhere else like Geelong or Collingwood and we get nothing plus we have to deal with any legal disputes that might follow.
2) We pay part of his salary to get him away from the club with a potential to get something back in terms of a draft pick from another club?
3) We keep him on the playing list and pay out his contract while he effectively stands out of football for another year?
4) The AFL de-rigsters him as a player and his only chance of a return is via the MSD? I don't know if this is possible.
5) Add whatever else you think is is a better solution.

De-register and sue him for this year's salary and breach of contract.

[The Adelaide Connection]

I do get the frustration but just on that very point that I have highlighted, what are acceptable outcomes for you (and others)?

1) Do you want him terminated without pay?
This likely means he goes anywhere else like Geelong or Collingwood and we get nothing plus we have to deal with any legal disputes that might follow.
2) We pay part of his salary to get him away from the club with a potential to get something back in terms of a draft pick from another club?
3) We keep him on the playing list and pay out his contract while he effectively stands out of football for another year?
4) The AFL de-rigsters him as a player and his only chance of a return is via the MSD? I don't know if this is possible.
5) Add whatever else you think is is a better solution.

6) He comes back to Preseason with a great attitude, some extra maturity, and perhaps a mentor that will keep the train on the track. Do we still have Varcoe in this role?
He goes back to being a 40-50 goal forward and we are either left with a player that will contribute and keep the fuss down to a low-roar *or* we have some serious trade capital at the end of 2026.

Note: I should mention we also start our three-peat by beating the Hawks in the GF. Five different goal kickers kick the last five goals of the game and each of them shows Ginnivan the ball.


Is this too much to ask?

[Bulldog Joe]

I am in the camp that we terminate Jamarra without pay as he has failed to meet his obligations.

I actually think the AFL should deregister him and prevent him playing anywhere except with Tarryn Thomas.

He has shown complete disdain for his employer and does not deserve to be paid.

If another club is prepared to take him on good luck to them

We need to move on and win a few flags

[azabob]

He really can't stop stepping on his own dick can he?!

I really hope he gets it together and has a great career but his lack of self awareness is quite remarkable.

I hope he doesn’t play another game of afl football.

[Bornadog]

6) He comes back to Preseason with a great attitude, some extra maturity, and perhaps a mentor that will keep the train on the track. Do we still have Varcoe in this role?
He goes back to being a 40-50 goal forward and we are either left with a player that will contribute and keep the fuss down to a low-roar *or* we have some serious trade capital at the end of 2026.

Note: I should mention we also start our three-peat by beating the Hawks in the GF. Five different goal kickers kick the last five goals of the game and each of them shows Ginnivan the ball.


Is this too much to ask?

Varcoe long gone. We do have another indigenous mentor on board.

[jeemak]

He should be deregistered without further pay, and forced to enter the mid-season draft earliest for mine.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

He should be deregistered without further pay, and forced to enter the mid-season draft earliest for mine.

Yep. I just don't understand why we would not have protections in place that from a legal standpoint would see him in a fundamental breach of contract or in a Health Insurance case.
Not withstanding the genuine health issues Jamarra struggles with, there should (in my opinion) be a point also where that is somewhat offset or diminished by an ongoing refusal by JUH to meet certain health related guidelines or waypoints. This is absolutely not to dismiss/diminish his health concerns.. but that should be a health issue if he's unable to meet the standards..and that should be a health insurance or workers comp, not payment of or his lucrative work-based contract for being and performing his duties as an AFL or at least prospective AFL player.

[FrediKanoute]

I am in the camp that we terminate Jamarra without pay as he has failed to meet his obligations.

I actually think the AFL should deregister him and prevent him playing anywhere except with Tarryn Thomas.

He has shown complete disdain for his employer and does not deserve to be paid.

If another club is prepared to take him on good luck to them

We need to move on and win a few flags

I can't support this. In an ordinary workplace (which the AFL is not), yes your employer would be able to dismiss you without pay, but even then given he has an illness it's not cut and dry. To deregister him and prevent him from earning a living.....wow that is next level. I wouldn't give any employer the power to do that.

Best solution is often the one staring us in the face. He leaves, Suns pick him up. We pay no salary.

[Bulldog Joe]

I can't support this. In an ordinary workplace (which the AFL is not), yes your employer would be able to dismiss you without pay, but even then given he has an illness it's not cut and dry. To deregister him and prevent him from earning a living.....wow that is next level. I wouldn't give any employer the power to do that.

Best solution is often the one staring us in the face. He leaves, Suns pick him up. We pay no salary.

Whatever the alleged illness is he is clearly able to get out and about and interact with others.

Deregistering him would not prevent him earning a living. He could work anywhere like a normal human.

He should not be funded for the lifestyle he has clearly chosen when he does not perform the basic requirements.