Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

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  • Uninformed
    Draftee
    • Jan 2023
    • 759

    Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

    Baz connecting with the players, coaches and club and not just going for the best commercial offer, then he stays. If not he goes.

    Nature of the game. If he is not that connected then better to move on. The club will find a way to improve given recent past performance.

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    • Sedat
      Hall of Fame
      • Sep 2007
      • 11087

      Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

      Originally posted by azabob
      By years end he would?ve overtaken David Brent.
      Live fast, die old
      "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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      • Sedat
        Hall of Fame
        • Sep 2007
        • 11087

        Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

        Originally posted by Happy Days
        I agree but it?s kinda at that point now where it?s so weird that I need it explained to me for my own sanity. My man is out here getting his nipples twisted by an NRL player on national television ffs.
        Yeah I totally get the curiosity. Maybe he and his management are waiting to see how the season plays out, as things on-field appear to be changing rapidly in real time.
        "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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        • Bullies
          Senior Player
          • Sep 2014
          • 1802

          Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

          Originally posted by Sedat
          Yeah I totally get the curiosity. Maybe he and his management are waiting to see how the season plays out, as things on-field appear to be changing rapidly in real time.
          If he had any intention of staying he would be going all out to play finals. He would have signed the 2 year deal and rolling the dice. 9 months is the max these days with ACL's (See McStay/Ashcroft). Both those guys couldn't get back quick enough. Our man though makes a guest appearence at the club every so often.

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          • Bornadog
            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
            • Jan 2007
            • 65850

            Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

            Originally posted by Bullies
            If he had any intention of staying he would be going all out to play finals. He would have signed the 2 year deal and rolling the dice. 9 months is the max these days with ACL's (See McStay/Ashcroft). Both those guys couldn't get back quick enough. Our man though makes a guest appearence at the club every so often.
            He did the ACL in December, so I guess his 9 months almost up
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            • westbulldog
              Senior Player
              • Sep 2009
              • 1763

              Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

              When Ryan Griffin left the world was ending, it didn't and it won't now. Smith is gone and the Dogs move on and up.

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              • mighty_west
                Coaching Staff
                • Feb 2008
                • 3402

                Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                If i'm Bailey Smith even if i'm wanting out, considering the team is flying i'm getting myself ready to play ASAP and see if i can snag a flag to help the team but also for himself.

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                • Vred
                  Senior Player
                  • Nov 2018
                  • 1295

                  Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                  Originally posted by mighty_west
                  If i'm Bailey Smith even if i'm wanting out, considering the team is flying i'm getting myself ready to play ASAP and see if i can snag a flag to help the team but also for himself.
                  Few posts on other forums claiming the club has outright told him he isn't playing this year.

                  Makes sense, if he came back and got injured his value would be nil, and honestly doubt he could build up his fitness base in time to really have an impact anyway.

                  If he was signed I'd feel different but at this point, protect the trade asset at all costs.
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                  • bulldogtragic
                    The List Manager
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 34316

                    Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                    Originally posted by Vred
                    Few posts on other forums claiming the club has outright told him he isn't playing this year.

                    Makes sense, if he came back and got injured his value would be nil, and honestly doubt he could build up his fitness base in time to really have an impact anyway.

                    If he was signed I'd feel different but at this point, protect the trade asset at all costs.
                    Couldn’t agree more.
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                    • Axe Man
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 10964

                      Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                      Originally posted by Vred
                      Few posts on other forums claiming the club has outright told him he isn't playing this year.

                      Makes sense, if he came back and got injured his value would be nil, and honestly doubt he could build up his fitness base in time to really have an impact anyway.

                      If he was signed I'd feel different but at this point, protect the trade asset at all costs.
                      There was an article 2 weeks ago suggesting this:

                      Bailey Smith not expected to return for possible Bulldogs finals charge

                      Western Bulldogs? jet ball-winner Bailey Smith is unlikely to make a return to playing this season even if the club makes a deep run into September.

                      The man who appears headed for a trade to Geelong at season?s end is almost eight months into his recovery from a heartbreaking ACL tear suffered in mid-December last year.

                      While Collingwood?s Dan McStay has made his comeback to AFL level off only one VFL game, Smith is not physically recovered enough to step back onto the field.

                      ACL victims are typically ready after nine months out of the game, but even if the Bulldogs continued their hot form in September, Smith is unlikely to be risked as he prepares to change clubs.

                      Smith would command a long and lucrative contract at Geelong and would help provide a quality injection into a midfield brigade which needs to be strengthened.

                      But the club looks unlikely to risk a key trade asset in the run home and instead bank on its current senior playmakers to lead its push into the eight and finals if they make it.

                      Instead, Smith, who went overseas on a short break last month, could set himself for a major training block in the off-season in preparation for a fresh start after six years at the kennel.

                      Smith, 24, would command a first-round draft pick from Geelong (currently pick No. 13) which the Bulldogs could then on-trade to West Coast if they are successful for Eagles? defender Tom Barrass.

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                      • mighty_west
                        Coaching Staff
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 3402

                        Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                        Originally posted by Vred
                        Few posts on other forums claiming the club has outright told him he isn't playing this year.

                        Makes sense, if he came back and got injured his value would be nil, and honestly doubt he could build up his fitness base in time to really have an impact anyway.

                        If he was signed I'd feel different but at this point, protect the trade asset at all costs.
                        Yeah i was seeing it from Baz's perspective, but i can understand the club taking that stance given the circumstances around getting a deal done, which in itself basically say's he is 100000% gone which i guess most of us probably realize anyway.

                        As far as fitness goes, if there was one player though it would be Baz imo, he's never had an issue with staying fit and could only need a couple of VFL games.

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                        • Bornadog
                          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 65850

                          Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                          Originally posted by mighty_west
                          Yeah i was seeing it from Baz's perspective, but i can understand the club taking that stance given the circumstances around getting a deal done, which in itself basically say's he is 100000% gone which i guess most of us probably realize anyway.

                          As far as fitness goes, if there was one player though it would be Baz imo, he's never had an issue with staying fit and could only need a couple of VFL games.
                          He is employed by us, and if he is ready and in form, he should play. End of story.
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                          • jeemak
                            Bulldog Legend
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 21508

                            Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                            Originally posted by bornadog
                            He is employed by us, and if he is ready and in form, he should play. End of story.
                            OK everyone. No more discussion on it.

                            TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                            • Bornadog
                              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 65850

                              Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                              Originally posted by jeemak
                              OK everyone. No more discussion on it.

                              No, this is only my opinion
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                              • MrMahatma
                                Coaching Staff
                                • Sep 2007
                                • 3965

                                Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                                Originally posted by bornadog
                                He is employed by us, and if he is ready and in form, he should play. End of story.
                                Where would he play and who would he replace?

                                I'm not sure there's a clear answer to those questions, and that he's that much better than whoever you choose right now. So, not sure that there's real upside in risking re-injury and tanking any trade value.

                                He's employed by us and is of value to us. I want him to stay, but if he's not committed yet, he probably isn't staying - so why essentially risk a first round pick (which is what we'll get for him) to get a couple of matches out of him this season? I can't seem him being the difference maker in a big final (and yes, I do remember 2021).

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