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  • GVGjr
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 44102

    Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

    Originally posted by Happy Days
    He almost has to go now right? If he gets to take a month long mid season holiday and then gets to turn up to training when he feels like it only to stay then I have to wonder how bought into footy he is generally, no matter how many pairs of footy boots get tagged with “miss this xo” on IG.
    I think so, I've been mentioning on the training reports that we haven't seen him on the track in weeks except for one where where he did a fair bit of running. I believe we were flexible with him by allowing him to occasionally train away from the club knowing that he would do the work required but he seems to have stretched that out a bit further.
    If he chooses to leave which looks to be a given it won't be because the club has been too strict with him.
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    • Grantysghost
      Bouncing Strong
      • Apr 2010
      • 18820

      Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

      The club uses Johnno as a semi detached message deliverer.

      That interview was massive in the context of where Bailey and the club are at.

      Seems like the relationship is at a very low ebb.
      BT COME BACK!​

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      • Grantysghost
        Bouncing Strong
        • Apr 2010
        • 18820

        Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

        Originally posted by jeemak
        I can't believe he didn't answer Johnno's call! As if he hasn't been sitting around waiting for it like the rest of us do all day.......


        It's not looking great. I'm going to rip into him mercilessly if and when he goes.
        Even if he is going who just doesn't rock up?
        He's at a point where he actually should be doing full training / getting prepared to play.

        I've not heard of something like this before.
        BT COME BACK!​

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        • comrade
          Hall of Fame
          • Jun 2008
          • 17887

          Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

          Originally posted by Grantysghost
          Even if he is going who just doesn't rock up?
          He's at a point where he actually should be doing full training / getting prepared to play.

          I've not heard of something like this before.
          Could quite honestly be a mutual thing?

          Maybe the club doesn?t want to risk the trade deal if he hurts himself at training. And the playing group may prefer to be without a guy that is committed elsewhere.
          Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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          • Bullies
            Senior Player
            • Sep 2014
            • 1802

            Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

            Originally posted by comrade
            Could quite honestly be a mutual thing?

            Maybe the club doesn?t want to risk the trade deal if he hurts himself at training. And the playing group may prefer to be without a guy that is committed elsewhere.
            There is never an issue in other sports like NRL/EPL when clubs know a player is leaving. If he is training by himself there is still the chance he can get injured. Inconvenience him so he has to come into the club to earn his coin.

            Something not quite right with this arrangement.

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            • GVGjr
              Moderator
              • Nov 2006
              • 44102

              Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

              Originally posted by comrade
              Could quite honestly be a mutual thing?

              Maybe the club doesn?t want to risk the trade deal if he hurts himself at training. And the playing group may prefer to be without a guy that is committed elsewhere.
              Quite possible that it's best for all concerned but surely Johnson would be aware of it if that was the case.
              Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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              • Grantysghost
                Bouncing Strong
                • Apr 2010
                • 18820

                Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                Originally posted by comrade
                Could quite honestly be a mutual thing?

                Maybe the club doesn?t want to risk the trade deal if he hurts himself at training. And the playing group may prefer to be without a guy that is committed elsewhere.
                I think reading between the lines the club actually doesn't know what he is doing. Which I guess is Bailey's right to do however it's clear they are getting frustrated.

                I think they would want him to play finals if available, or at least be prepared and ready with some VFL behind him.
                BT COME BACK!​

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 65855

                  Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                  Originally posted by Grantysghost
                  I think reading between the lines the club actually doesn't know what he is doing. Which I guess is Bailey's right to do however it's clear they are getting frustrated.

                  I think they would want him to play finals if available, or at least be prepared and ready with some VFL behind him.
                  I don't agree GG. He is employed by the club and should adhere to club rules - I don't care if he is leaving or not. He needs to show up and do his recovery per the Footy Department rules. Who the **** does this bloke think he is.
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                  • Grantysghost
                    Bouncing Strong
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 18820

                    Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                    Originally posted by bornadog
                    I don't agree GG. He is employed by the club and should adhere to club rules - I don't care if he is leaving or not. He needs to show up and do his recovery per the Footy Department rules. Who the **** does this bloke think he is.
                    Oh - I meant regarding his contract renewal. I agree absolutely regarding your point.
                    BT COME BACK!​

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                    • Scraggers
                      Premiership Moderator
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 3544

                      Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                      So what do we get? If he signs with Geelong or Hawthorn what compensation (if any) do we get? Does it have to be a trade? If so, what does a player of his ilk command in a trade?

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                      • Bumper Bulldogs
                        Coaching Staff
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 2897

                        Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                        Originally posted by Bullies
                        Bite the bullet and pay him out as he taking the pi** now. I'm sure the players don't have too much respect for him.

                        What professional sportsman doesn't try and play finals.
                        Great point. The fact is tho he has some value, he should also see this himself. We should have him doing the medical room updates every week and feinting the media on game day. All Bevo needs to say is, it?s up to Bailey what he does. We put a contract in front of him and he has yet to commit either way.

                        Everyone knows he is gone and maybe he being a little uncomfortable and some shit sticking to his manager would be a nice change.
                        BB.

                        Looking forward - Naughton, Darcy and JUH. It will be the envy of everyone.

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                        • hujsh
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 11813

                          Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                          There's no suggestion he's not been turning up if the club asks him right?
                          [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                          • jazzadogs
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 5535

                            Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                            Is he even going to meetings? He certainly wasn't in any of the footage from the Doug Reynolds 54 premiership player meeting.

                            It's crap from him, and crap from the club for letting it happen with seemingly no punishment.

                            The only way it is acceptable is if the club had a conversation with him and he confirmed he was leaving, so we said we don't want you to risk your rehab and reduce your value. But I doubt that conversation has happened.

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                            • GVGjr
                              Moderator
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 44102

                              Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                              Originally posted by Scraggers
                              So what do we get? If he signs with Geelong or Hawthorn what compensation (if any) do we get? Does it have to be a trade? If so, what does a player of his ilk command in a trade?
                              To me if all things were equal then we should get a top 10 pick or if that can't be achieved a first and second rounder and we would probably add a 3rd rounder to that negotiation.
                              Most likely will just get a first rounder.
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                              • Bornadog
                                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 65855

                                Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                                Originally posted by Grantysghost
                                Oh - I meant regarding his contract renewal. I agree absolutely regarding your point.
                                Sorry GG, I misunderstood
                                FFC: Established 1883

                                Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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