Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

Not that he cares but I've lost respect for him to the point where I'd rather he goes. He's coming across as pretty selfish and self-absorbed, which to be fair, we've kinda known all along.

Not being part of training and special sessions (i.e. Ad's 250th) reflects very poorly on him.

But hey, how 'bout another new flavour of vodka and some more IG snaps about how much he misses footy rite!?

I hope we give him a genuine bake once the trade is done publicly.

[mjp]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

Great point. The fact is tho he has some value, he should also see this himself. We should have him doing the medical room updates every week and feinting the media on game day.

...you can't do that though. The amount of time players can be used in these roles is controlled by the PA.

Now - you would think if Bailey was 'All In' he would have gone to the club and said:

"Hey - since I can't play I'm happy to waive that clause and do the following tasks for you each week...", but he either hasn't done that or he has and the response was "Nah mate - you're all good. Focus on your rehab...".

[Angak]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

What type of trade compensation are we looking at if we trade Baz to Geelong?

Geelong's first pick is likely to be in-between 12-18. One mid first-round pick is nowhere near enough. Tim Taranto fetched 2 x first rounders. Jacob Hopper was similar. Someone like Dan Houston who is 27 and plays a halfback role would require 2 firsts for Melbourne to prize him away from Port.

If we only get one mid-first-rounder for a 23 year old explosive midfielder who covers the ground at an elite level it would be akin to daylight robbery.

[jazzadogs]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

What type of trade compensation are we looking at if we trade Baz to Geelong?

Geelong's first pick is likely to be in-between 12-18. One mid first-round pick is nowhere near enough. Tim Taranto fetched 2 x first rounders. Jacob Hopper was similar. Someone like Dan Houston who is 27 and plays a halfback role would require 2 firsts for Melbourne to prize him away from Port.

If we only get one mid-first-rounder for a 23 year old explosive midfielder who covers the ground at an elite level it would be akin to daylight robbery.

Yeh I think we should be looking for equivalent to a top 8 pick. He was pick 6, has shown he was absolutely worth pick 6, and the examples you gave have set the market value imo.

So it's either a high pick, or two later firsts with significant value.

Without knowing anything about the draft forecast, I'd love for us to get two picks and bring in two young mids.

[Can Bar]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

If Baz Goes to the Cats, we need to some how sprinkle fairy dust on what we receive and try to get Zac Butters. Over to you Sammy

[jazzadogs]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

If Baz Goes to the Cats, we need to some how sprinkle fairy dust on what we receive and try to get Zac Butters. Over to you Sammy

I can't believe you haven't already heard the good news....

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

What type of trade compensation are we looking at if we trade Baz to Geelong?

Geelong's first pick is likely to be in-between 12-18. One mid first-round pick is nowhere near enough. Tim Taranto fetched 2 x first rounders. Jacob Hopper was similar. Someone like Dan Houston who is 27 and plays a halfback role would require 2 firsts for Melbourne to prize him away from Port.

If we only get one mid-first-rounder for a 23 year old explosive midfielder who covers the ground at an elite level it would be akin to daylight robbery.

I think their first and swapping their F1 for our F2 is where it probably lands. His ACL takes some value off anything way higher I think.

[angelopetraglia]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

Bailey wants to leave this team? Best facilities in the league? A squad that looks like it can challenge for number of years?

Why?

[jeemak]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

Brand Bailey.

[josie]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

Has anyone thought about possibility if Smith does turn up at WO it might end up a media circus, detracting from newsworthy events like Adz 250th? I know he is very likely gone but geez we’re quick to dump on players sometimes.

Aware of Brad Johnson publicly saying he has tried to call Smith with no response. I love Johnno but I’m not sure that’s a great tactic if we want him to stay. If Garcia and Smith both leave that’s not good, so hope we keep one and preferably both.

Whenever I’ve seen him at training he has been great with fans, especially kids.

I’m so excited with how team is performing I cannot be bothered trying to second guess Smith’s reasons for not being more visible. Up until reasonably recently he was supporting team at games, including at some VFL games.

If he is going elsewhere let’s hope we obtain a good pick for him and I’d rather him not play for us this year if is going or hasn’t decided yet as another serious injury is horrible for both him and our club.

[Scraggers]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

To me if all things were equal then we should get a top 10 pick or if that can't be achieved a first and second rounder and we would probably add a 3rd rounder to that negotiation.
Most likely will just get a first rounder.

Thanks G

[Hotdog60]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

If Smith was right to go come finals would you play him? Despite putting the miles in the legs he would match fit underdone and who do you kick out as I think the current players in his position are playing their roles very well.
So whether he stays or goes I don't think he would get a game at this stage.

[josie]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

If Smith was right to go come finals would you play him? Despite putting the miles in the legs he would match fit underdone and who do you kick out as I think the current players in his position are playing their roles very well.
So whether he stays or goes I don't think he would get a game at this stage.

Agree, although if he miraculously re-signed within next week or two & medicos gave him all clear and he played some blinders in VFL….lots of ifs & close to 100% unlikely. Plus the increased media attention might be a club distraction (although I think we’d cope ok).

[Pleather Sole]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

Has anyone thought about possibility if Smith does turn up at WO it might end up a media circus, detracting from newsworthy events like Adz 250th? I know he is very likely gone but geez we’re quick to dump on players sometimes.

Aware of Brad Johnson publicly saying he has tried to call Smith with no response. I love Johnno but I’m not sure that’s a great tactic if we want him to stay. If Garcia and Smith both leave that’s not good, so hope we keep one and preferably both.

Whenever I’ve seen him at training he has been great with fans, especially kids.

I’m so excited with how team is performing I cannot be bothered trying to second guess Smith’s reasons for not being more visible. Up until reasonably recently he was supporting team at games, including at some VFL games.

If he is going elsewhere let’s hope we obtain a good pick for him and I’d rather him not play for us this year if is going or hasn’t decided yet as another serious injury is horrible for both him and our club.

This where Brad Johnson's conflict of interest is bold. Is he calling Baz as a goalkicking 'consultant' or a media pundit? It seems like both and its Johnno using his trusted position for a story. Baz has good reason not to answer Johnno's calls if they're going to be used as fodder. The breach of ethics is obvious. Are all the other Dogs players gonna be wary of Johnno's calls? Probably no because they're not in Smith's position but it might make some of them 2nd guess Brad's intentions.

I think the club needs to issue a 'please explain' to Johnno, make sure the rules around his privileged access are clear.

[comrade]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

Brad Johnson didn?t say he called Bailey Smith and his call to Baz went unanswered. He made a reference to making some calls (in the context of Smith?s contract) and he hasn?t had a response yet. I took it as he tried to get some info via his contacts at the club.