Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?

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  • Rocco Jones
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jun 2008
    • 6931

    Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?

    OK a little bit jokes but I am mainly starting this thread so the weekly MC isn't so bogged down in one discussion. Gary please delete if you see fit.

    Why is Sweet an elite AFL tap ruckman? What to do with English after we prioritise Sweet's role? Why Sweet is the difference between us underperforming and becoming unbeatable?

    Whilst I am kinda taking the piss, I truly believe this thread is 'needed'.
  • Rocco Jones
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jun 2008
    • 6931

    #2
    Re: Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?

    I say no as most AFL ruckmen are better than the top up rucks he comes up again a lot of the time in VFL. Also, not as simple as a lot of Sweethearts (Sweet fans. Maybe Sweet Tooths?) make out to simple have English roaming around the ground and dominating. Chasing around/play a mid role much harder than running around with a ruck and a different role to even a high KPF. I get it if you want Sweets hitout work but you are simply not going to be able to get English's around the ground work as well.

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    • hujsh
      Hall of Fame
      • Nov 2007
      • 11839

      #3
      Re: Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?

      We could elevate him but that AFL might consider that cheating
      [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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      • Rocco Jones
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Jun 2008
        • 6931

        #4
        Re: Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?

        Originally posted by hujsh
        We could elevate him but that AFL might consider that cheating
        Clearly AFL counts Sweet as two players in CBAs.

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        • MrMahatma
          Coaching Staff
          • Sep 2007
          • 3964

          #5
          Re: Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?

          Just him in the centre square. We can deploy Bont, Libba, and Ads elsewhere. Sweety will make the opposition retreaty.

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          • Grantysghost
            Bouncing Strong
            • Apr 2010
            • 18959

            #6
            Re: Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?

            He's got the opposite skill set to English almost. It's like they had their DNA separated and placed into two Neanderthals Prof. Frankenstein style.

            Sweet is a good body player, however that alone just doesn't cut it anymore and until he gets better around the ground he will always be the backup.
            BT COME BACK!​

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            • EasternWest
              Hall of Fame
              • Aug 2009
              • 10002

              #7
              Re: Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?

              Originally posted by Rocco Jones
              OK a little bit jokes but I am mainly starting this thread so the weekly MC isn't so bogged down in one discussion. Gary please delete if you see fit.

              Why is Sweet an elite AFL tap ruckman? What to do with English after we prioritise Sweet's role? Why Sweet is the difference between us underperforming and becoming unbeatable?

              Whilst I am kinda taking the piss, I truly believe this thread is 'needed'.
              Never mind this I wanna know how we can get Schache, Lipinski and Young back.
              "It's over. It's all over."

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              • hujsh
                Hall of Fame
                • Nov 2007
                • 11839

                #8
                Re: Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?

                Originally posted by Grantysghost
                He's got the opposite skill set to English almost. It's like they had their DNA separated and placed into two Neanderthals Prof. Frankenstein style.

                Sweet is a good body player, however that alone just doesn't cut it anymore and until he gets better around the ground he will always be the backup.
                Under the Les Enfants Terribles program the Patriots devised a plan to clone Big Boss, the greatest ruck of all time. Sweet got all of his dominant genes, and English the recessive ones
                [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                • Danjul
                  WOOF Member
                  • Apr 2019
                  • 1624

                  #9
                  Re: Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?

                  Originally posted by EasternWest
                  Never mind this I wanna know how we can get Schache, Lipinski and Young back.
                  Correct me if I?m wrong but at least two of them were in the group that gave us some final wins less than 2 years ago.

                  Now we will go to the footy to see if someone can get less than 0 touches of the ball. I am confident that we will find a way of achieving new depths.

                  personally I preferred the 2021 game plan.

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                  • Rocco Jones
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 6931

                    #10
                    Re: Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?

                    Originally posted by Danjul
                    Correct me if I?m wrong but at least two of them were in the group that gave us some final wins less than 2 years ago.

                    Now we will go to the footy to see if someone can get less than 0 touches of the ball. I am confident that we will find a way of achieving new depths.

                    personally I preferred the 2021 game plan.
                    May I ask why you are comparing disposals for a forward pocket and a ruck? (I think Arty shouldn't play in the seniors this week btw).

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                    • Danjul
                      WOOF Member
                      • Apr 2019
                      • 1624

                      #11
                      Re: Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?

                      Originally posted by Grantysghost
                      He's got the opposite skill set to English almost. It's like they had their DNA separated and placed into two Neanderthals Prof. Frankenstein style.

                      Sweet is a good body player, however that alone just doesn't cut it anymore and until he gets better around the ground he will always be the backup.
                      Exactly correct. But he should be a backup in the 22 so we can execute Plan B when necessary.

                      Getting no touches around the ground would be no worse than Arty and still better than JOD gifting 2 goals.

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                      • meenies
                        Rookie List
                        • May 2014
                        • 212

                        #12
                        Re: Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?

                        Was it Rocket who had Minson at centre bounces as the ruck rover a few times?

                        Maybe Sweet ruck and English as RR. Why not?

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                        • Rocco Jones
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 6931

                          #13
                          Re: Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?

                          Originally posted by Danjul
                          Exactly correct. But he should be a backup in the 22 so we can execute Plan B when necessary.

                          Getting no touches around the ground would be no worse than Arty and still better than JOD gifting 2 goals.
                          Thing is Arty and JOD play peripheral roles. Sweet in the ruck means we lose out on Sweet generally owning rucks around the ground. The notion we can get both with English as a mid, it'll be a massive difference having English opposed to a lumbering ruck vs expectations as a mid.

                          FWIW definitely do not want JOD and Arty in the 22.

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                          • Grantysghost
                            Bouncing Strong
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 18959

                            #14
                            Re: Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?

                            We should've traded Sweet and kept Lipinski.

                            Reply with for yes or for no.
                            BT COME BACK!​

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                            • Grantysghost
                              Bouncing Strong
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 18959

                              #15
                              Re: Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?

                              Originally posted by Grantysghost
                              We should've traded Sweet and kept Lipinski.

                              Reply with for yes or for no.
                              BT COME BACK!​

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