Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?

Can you teach a big guy aggression and how to throw his body around to get into the right positions ?

Schache could not be taught

I recall Colingwood brought in Jarred Malloy to teach the Rocca brothers how to through their weight around.

What is Travis Cloak doing nowadays?

Probably still annoyed the way we ended his career.

I think he’s a runner at one of the other clubs.

[DOG GOD]

Re: Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?

Can you teach a big guy aggression and how to throw his body around to get into the right positions ?

Schache could not be taught

I recall Colingwood brought in Jarred Malloy to teach the Rocca brothers how to through their weight around.

What is Travis Cloak doing nowadays?

Runner at Essendon I think

[Happy Days]

Re: Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?

What did we do to Travis Cloke except give him an extra year of superannuation exactly?

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?

What did we do to Travis Cloke except give him an extra year of superannuation exactly?

He had a two year deal from us and we shoved him out the door after one year. From memory just to free up a list spot so GWS didn’t steal Honeychurch off of us. He ‘retired’ on the side of a street in Richmond to some press in a pretty sad way. Was a pretty shit way Jason McCartney handled it. But that’s his MO.

[Bornadog]

Re: Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?

Can you teach a big guy aggression and how to throw his body around to get into the right positions ?

What are the right positions

[macca]

Re: Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?

Against Meek, he seemed to be behind MeeK at a lot of the tap ins.

I don't know if Meek is getting front body position because he is stronger, or just knows his centre of gravity abit better to throw his weight around.

[Bornadog]

Re: Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?

As I have stated before, my preferred ruck is more like a Gawn. Tim hit those heights last year but didn't quite measure up this year with an inconsistent season.

Sweet last night had 52 hitouts - great, but only 10 went to advantage - same as Meek. Hawks had more centre clearances and only 3 less clearance stoppages which means 42 of Sweets hitouts were in dispute, so the best mids will pounce on that. Sweet also had ZERO marks around the ground. He needs to be more effective than just hitouts.

Last week against Geelong Sweet had 51 hitouts (15 HTA) to Stanley's 28 yet Port lost by 84 points - so no influence.

Look further into a players performance than just hitouts.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Re: Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?

BAD did you watch the game? How did you rate it vs English's game against Meek last week?

[JanLorMill]

Re: Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?

As I have stated before, my preferred ruck is more like a Gawn. Tim hit those heights last year but didn't quite measure up this year with an inconsistent season.

Sweet last night had 52 hitouts - great, but only 10 went to advantage - same as Meek. Hawks had more centre clearances and only 3 less clearance stoppages which means 42 of Sweets hitouts were in dispute, so the best mids will pounce on that. Sweet also had ZERO marks around the ground. He needs to be more effective than just hitouts.

Last week against Geelong Sweet had 51 hitouts (15 HTA) to Stanley's 28 yet Port lost by 84 points - so no influence.

Look further into a players performance than just hitouts.

BEST
Port Adelaide: Burgoyne, Rioli, Horne-Francis, Georgiades, Jones, Evans, Zerk-Thatcher, Sweet
Hawthorn: Scrimshaw, Newcombe, Watson, Worpel, Sicily, Morrison
no Meek.

[SonofScray]

Re: Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?

Can you teach a big guy aggression and how to throw his body around to get into the right positions ?

Schache could not be taught

I recall Colingwood brought in Jarred Malloy to teach the Rocca brothers how to through their weight around.

What is Travis Cloak doing nowadays?

I know that the club has been working hard to try and get some C you Next Tuesday into Tim?s game in recent preseasons, less so this one just passed. Lots of additional drills working on jumping in to the opponent, really looking to get into it and embrace the collision element of ruck work. If he can?t do it on the back of that, add the concussion issues now and it?s not going to happen.

He can still be a very good player. Terrific in fact. But he?ll never be a tough and physically robust footballer you can rely on to fight and fight hard.

[Bornadog]

Re: Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?

BAD did you watch the game? How did you rate it vs English's game against Meek last week?

Tim was shocking last week. Meek killed him around the ground.

[Bornadog]

Re: Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?

BEST
Port Adelaide: Burgoyne, Rioli, Horne-Francis, Georgiades, Jones, Evans, Zerk-Thatcher, Sweet
Hawthorn: Scrimshaw, Newcombe, Watson, Worpel, Sicily, Morrison
no Meek.

Proves what?

Tell me, if a player has 15 disposals, no marks, and ten of his 52 hitouts actually gives your team an advantage is that a great ruckman? He did lay 5 tackles which was good.

[JanLorMill]

Re: Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?

Proves what?

Tell me, if a player has 15 disposals, no marks, and ten of his 52 hitouts actually gives your team an advantage is that a great ruckman? He did lay 5 tackles which was good.

proves he was the best ruck of the day and one of better players of in the game.

[jeemak]

Re: Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?

I reckon if we keep at it we'll eventually solve this.

[Bornadog]

Re: Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?

I reckon if we keep at it we'll eventually solve this.

Mate, I give up.