Official 2008 Draft/Trade Thread

[FrediKanoute]

Re: Official 2008 Draft/Trade Thread

Definitely see something in Ryan Murphy the only problem with him is that as someone said he doesn't really have the desire to compete at AFL level. Would go for him cheap, though.

Ryan Murphy sounds like a McDougall......physcially hs is a footballer, but he lacks two things a top footballer needs:

1.Heart; and
2.Footy Brain.

Would pass on him. He's been shopped around for a couple of years and given Tarrant's problems and Freo underperforming I would have thought that he would have shown somehting this year.

[GVGjr]

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Any interest from us with regards to Warnock at Freo?

Would could we offer to get him?

Warnock would want to go to Melbourne for a couple of reasons.
1 - He can play in the same team as his brother
2 - He gets to be number 1 ruckman

And I suppose it drags up the question of why would he want to come to the Dogs and play 2nd or 3rd fiddle to Hudson and/or Minson.

[Sockeye Salmon]

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I meant to say 'a fairer price'.

Too many bargains by paying just a 3rd round pick
A 2nd round pick would be a fairer price though

That's OK for the stars, but what about the kids who want to play for their dad's club but are only also-rans.

Richmond should have been able to F/S Patrick Bowden for a low pick.

[bulldogtragic]

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Mundy, Warnock, Tarrant, Murphy.

Any interest in any of them?

[GVGjr]

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That's OK for the stars, but what about the kids who want to play for their dad's club but are only also-rans.

Richmond should have been able to F/S Patrick Bowden for a low pick.

We are never going to reach an agreement on this but I still think the 2nd round is a reasonable price to pay over all the father son selections. You pay a fair price and yet you don't get an out and out bargain except in some instances.
I still don't get why another team should be able to bid for the son of say Scott Wynd?
We should either agree to the selection or take our chances of getting him in the draft in the 3rd or 4th rounds etc

[ledge]

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Well Warnock wants to come to Melb, Ray maybe go back to WA and i just read Bond is trying to lure Cameron over to Freo.
Ray and Cameron to Freo for Warnock!
Sounds good to me.

[Mofra]

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Would us chasing him depend on what we do with Wight and O'Shea? I know we have struggled in the 2nd half of the year for tall defender's, but if Williams can get himself fit and Everitt put on some size we should be ok in this area.

Two big ifs. Williams hasn't shown he is durable enough to play a complete season at any level of AFL football besides a shorter schoolboy level in a non-AFL state.
Everitt may just have a case of 2nd year blues - I don't think he'll be physically ready to play a real CHB role for another few years, given talls take longer to develop and he was drafted as a skinny tall at that.

We need a CHB desperately and realistically don't have anyone on the list who can play the role in 2009. At this stage, I'd consider a C/D-grader who has enough ticker just to make a contest.

[The Underdog]

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Well Warnock wants to come to Melb, Ray maybe go back to WA and i just read Bond is trying to lure Cameron over to Freo.
Ray and Cameron to Freo for Warnock!
Sounds good to me.

Do you mean Leon Cameron? I'm pretty sure his days of being involved in trades are over.

[Mantis]

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Two big ifs. Williams hasn't shown he is durable enough to play a complete season at any level of AFL football besides a shorter schoolboy level in a non-AFL state.

Everitt may just have a case of 2nd year blues - I don't think he'll be physically ready to play a real CHB role for another few years, given talls take longer to develop and he was drafted as a skinny tall at that.

We need a CHB desperately and realistically don't have anyone on the list who can play the role in 2009. At this stage, I'd consider a C/D-grader who has enough ticker just to make a contest.

You just mentioned 2 who realistically could play the role. The definition of the CHB role also needs to be clarified as how many 'true' CHF's are there? I think the better term is tall defender's and we need to have 3 of these playing. I think Lake, Williams and Everitt will comfortably fill these roles for us next year.

[GVGjr]

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Mundy, Warnock, Tarrant, Murphy.

Any interest in any of them?

Mundy yes but he isn't the key defender that we really need.

I'm not as keen on the other three and I'd be surprised if we could really get Tarrant at a reasonable price.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

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I think the better term is tall defender's and we need to have 3 of these playing. I think Lake, Williams and Everitt will comfortably fill these roles for us next year.

Lake's form this year has been worrying though. His continual brain lapses have cost us big time. He hasn't played nearly close enough to his opponents all year and he's turned the ball over regularly. I still think he's a good defender, but he needs to work harder - perhaps once he gets some assistance it'll be a weight off his shoulders, though.

Williams would be absolutely fantastic for us, his improvement from game to game is quite impressive, but one has to question whether he'll ever play a full season without setbacks. His potential is enormous, but his body is a struggle and relying solely on him would be dangerous.

Everitt has had an ordinary year, but he's still going to be a fine player. I personally think he's going to take another two seasons though. He's still got a lot to learn and he has to bulk up considerably. I would expect improvement, but along with Williams, I don't think we can be relying on him to help hold up our key backs.

The 'potential' is quite mouth watering should the above three play quality football, but for various reasons (injuries, inexperience) I doubt whether they'll be able to do the job next year for us. Realistically we're going to have to settle for that and continue to develop the latter two, but I wouldn't mind seeing us either draft a mature age player (eg. Harry Taylor type) or trade for a 'stop gap' until we're capable of sending Everitt etc. out to battle. Spangher is an interesting option and I suppose Graham will come into considerations too.

[LostDoggy]

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I cant believe this fascination with David Mundy! He is heading towards the most overrated player in the comp just because he is out of contract and moving home.
He hasnt improved since his first season. He often chooses the wrong option (on when to run and carry/ or when to kick) and doesnt seem to have a natural feel for the state of the game.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

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Mundy would be a decent inclusion but his asking price would probably be reasonably high. Drafted Pick #19 if I recall correctly? He's done pretty well to date. Our only chance is packaging a draft pick with Ray for Mundy, and even then, I'm not particularly sure that would favour us.

I still think Lovett is worth chasing - unaware of what Essendon will ultimately be after. His pace, run & carry and disposal are something we desperately need through the midfield. His attitude problems are a worry though, and obviously the club would need to consider the risks involved. As a player though - he's what we need outside of some tall timber.

[Bornadog]

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Lake's form this year has been worrying though. His continual brain lapses have cost us big time. .

Can't agree with a blanket statement like that. He has turned the ball over on occassion, but we haven't lost a game due to it. I think big time is an over exageration.
Lake has been under extreme pressure being the only tall in the backline since Wight and Williams went out.

[ledge]

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Do you mean Leon Cameron? I'm pretty sure his days of being involved in trades are over.

I can dream though.