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  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 67706

    #571
    Originally posted by dukedog

    Really Like this setup.

    I'd have West in there somewhere. Is he injured or he not had a good pre season?
    From all reports West has been flying
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    • JackCJohnston2000
      Rookie List
      • May 2024
      • 312

      #572
      Originally posted by Rocco Jones
      B: Doc, Lobb, Buss
      HB: Dale, JOD, Freijah
      C: Truck, Libba, Davidson
      HF: McNeil, Naughts, M Kennedy
      F: Cody, Darcy, English
      R: Crossley, Bont, Ed
      IC: Sanders, Bramble, Garcia, Gags
      Sub: Harmes
      It will take some time to get used to the idea of seeing English in the team but not the #1 ruckman but I trust that if we sign Crossley, it'll be because we think he can have a real impact. Not just depth.

      And if that's the case, he absolutely should start and alternate with English as a one two punch.

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      • Rocco Jones
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Jun 2008
        • 6988

        #573
        Originally posted by dukedog

        Really Like this setup.

        I'd have West in there somewhere. Is he injured or he not had a good pre season?
        I simply forgot West. Thank you.

        B: Doc, Lobb, Buss
        HB: Dale, JOD, Freijah
        C: Truck, Libba, Davidson
        HF: McNeil, Naughts, M Kennedy
        F: Cody, Darcy, English
        R: Crossley, Bont, Ed
        IC: Sanders, Bramble, Garcia, West
        Sub: Harmes

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        • Willow18
          Rookie List
          • Jan 2025
          • 179

          #574
          Where do we think Garcia is at? Dominates VFL; I’ve liked him in patches and thought he was dropped after his best game last year.

          but he gets caught HTB a lot, and I’m unsure on the defensive side of his game?

          Realistically is his future with us as a half-forward link up with small stints in the midfield?

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          • jeemak
            Bulldog Legend
            • Oct 2010
            • 22159

            #575
            Originally posted by Willow18
            Where do we think Garcia is at? Dominates VFL; I’ve liked him in patches and thought he was dropped after his best game last year.

            but he gets caught HTB a lot, and I’m unsure on the defensive side of his game?

            Realistically is his future with us as a half-forward link up with small stints in the midfield?
            Without knowing his instructions there's a couple of things that stand out to me about Riley when he's playing in the seniors that might worry the coaches. Firstly he's displayed a lack of discipline without the football and in trying to get it, although on the flipside he's enthusiastic and has curtailed the ill-discipline a little the last twelve months. Secondly his turn and kick, sometimes with a bit of air/ lack of penetration over distance between the arcs might be a bit of a concern.

            Nobody's perfect though, and we have to remember he's had a lot of interruptions to his career. Last year was a big improvement, he played his highest game tally and increased his productivity by a long way. I'd expect he'll get plenty of opportunities as a high half forward/ rotating mid off the bench, maybe as the sub. I just want him to keep getting tidier with the footy and to get more of it. He's a mature body now, we need depth players like him to be stronger and as consistent as possible to keep us competitive.
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            • Bumper Bulldogs
              Coaching Staff
              • Apr 2008
              • 3046

              #576
              I’m thinking we might go with

              B: Doc, Lobb, Khamas
              HB: Dale, JOD, Freijah
              C: Williams, Libba, Davidson
              HF: McNeil, Naughts, M Kennedy
              F: Cody, Darcy, West
              R: Crossley, Bont, Ed
              IC: Bramble, Sanders, Harmes, Garcia,
              Sub: Gags

              English to replace Crossley if fit and Khamas to 2nd the ruck duties with our A group of midfield as we need to rove to their ruck
              BB.

              Looking forward - Naughton, Darcy and JUH. It will be the envy of everyone.

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              • Jackodog
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2025
                • 8

                #577
                B: Duryea, Busslinger, O’Donnell
                HB: Dale, Lobb, Freijah
                C: Williams, Richards, Davidson
                HF: Sanders, Naughton, West
                F: Weightman, Darcy, A Jones
                R: English, Liberatore, Bontempelli
                I: Bramble, Gallagher, Garcia, M Kennedy, Harmes

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                • Scott2016
                  Scott2016 commented
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                  You and I are on the same page. Wouldnt change a thing
              • Stevo
                Senior Player
                • May 2008
                • 1098

                #578
                Originally posted by Jackodog
                B: Duryea, Busslinger, O’Donnell
                HB: Dale, Lobb, Freijah
                C: Williams, Richards, Davidson
                HF: Sanders, Naughton, West
                F: Weightman, Darcy, A Jones
                R: English, Liberatore, Bontempelli
                I: Bramble, Gallagher, Garcia, M Kennedy, Harmes
                Nice one Jacko.
                There are a couple of surprises so I'd like to know why you have gone with Busslinger and and Arty and have demoted Vandermeer and McNeil?
                Based on the training reports it seems like Laith and Lachy are almost certain selections. I can't see both missing.
                If Gallagher is now a defender, you have also listed 8 which might be one too many.

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                • Rocco Jones
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 6988

                  #579
                  Updated side post Match Sim, nothing huge discovered, but here I go:

                  KPDs

                  Lobb
                  - a lock

                  Buss- I've said a few times on this thread but I really don't like the hybrids (tall + mobile) who actually don't do either particularly well. Like playing an allrounder who isn't close to making a side with bat or ball alone. Buss can take an intercept mark and good foot skills for a KPD. A lot relies on if we think he is confident enough to play that intercept type game at AFsL straight up but he has to play sometime, right?

                  JOD- marginally over Buku I guess for upside and 'getting games into him' but yeah, much of a muchness


                  Small Defenders

                  Pretty easy here with Dale, Freijah, Doc and Bramble.

                  That's 7 so far.

                  Inside Mids

                  Bont, Ed- guns

                  Libba- If I had to take something out of the match sim it's that perhaps the CBA B Team aren't quite ready to take baulk of Libba's inside mins quiet yet (or majority of CBAs in general). Anyways, if he can't play inside mid, he is out of the side.

                  There's probably about 75% CBA TOG leftover.

                  Sanders- I think the best option in terms of his limitations elsewhere + short and long term needs combo. I think out of the side if we don't see him getting that fourth CBA spot rotation.

                  Rucks

                  Crossley- might be horseds for courses with the ruck but I'd go Crossley for R1 and potentially more depending on the mix. Seems the most likely being subbed off candidate if no injuries beforehand.

                  English- R2 and possibly then R1 after sub

                  Wings/HFFs rotations

                  Truck- wing/ goes down back in case of injury

                  Davidson, McNeil- I am not saying Davidson is a lock but these two seem the guys getting biggest crack at the wing/HFF role. Definitely open to others but no one I see as better candidates thus far.

                  M Kennedy- Kennedy perhaps a victim of not being as limited as other options. Maybe doesn't fit just here. HFF/wing/inside mid. But yeah, I think he has to play.

                  Ok that's 17

                  KPFs

                  Naughts, Darcy-
                  alongside English relieving in ruck. Mix might change post sub.

                  Small Forwards

                  Cody- plays more like a medium or KPF. Would love to see him 'more involved' in games where he isn't kicking bag. Too often all duck or no dinner. Definitely open to roles/opportunities that help make this happen

                  West- I get why he is a fringe-ish selection but probably see him being out of the side as too clever by half.

                  Just happens to be 1 spot left + sub and this kind of thinking isn't exclusive to only the last spot but what do we need?

                  I know plenty, including myself, would like to see Garcia in. His style is endearing and he is too good for VFL but how does he add value?

                  In short, I think there are two spots max for the trio of Garcia, Libba and Sanders. Perhaps only 1 if Matt Kennedy adds value to the CBA mix. If we are to play Garcia, LIbba and Sanders, they'd need to collectively offer value = 80%ish TOG outside of CBAs. OR we move Ed and/or Bont for that time. I just don't see that as benefitting the team.

                  Long story short does Garcia offer more outside of inside mid than our other options?

                  Atm I'd have Gags in the 22. Thought his ability to read the play and intercept a couple of times behind the ball was pretty good on Saturday. Short + long term thinking as well as an ability to play a few different roles. Definitely not sold but my pick atm.

                  Don't mind Baker too but yeah, perhaps less 'upside' or well, he is older.

                  With the sub, I'd go with Harmes due to experience and a bit versatile. Baker again an option as I think he is a bit more suited to the role than other options who invariably are more inexperienced.

                  It's really tough with the fringes and I think sometimes 'depth' is overrated, well when it comes to individuals. I think it's more about how much easier the better players make it for fringe guys and how well the team is going with systems/structures et al.

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                  • Cmac1297
                    Rookie List
                    • Dec 2024
                    • 79

                    #580
                    Originally posted by Cmac1297

                    Updated 23

                    B- Duryea Jones O’Donnell
                    HB- Dale Lobb Bramble
                    C- Williams Libba Davidson
                    HF-Harmes Naughton McNeil
                    F- West Darcy Weightman
                    R- English Bont Richards
                    I- Sanders Freijah M.Kennedy Garcia
                    S- Gallagher
                    update post match sim

                    B- Duryea Busslinger Khamis
                    HB-Dale Lobb Freijah
                    C-Williams Libba Poulter
                    HF-Sanders Naughton McNeil
                    F-West Darcy Weightman
                    R- English Bont Richards
                    I-Bramble Kennedy Garcia Harmes
                    Gallagher


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                    • JackCJohnston2000
                      Rookie List
                      • May 2024
                      • 312

                      #581
                      With Weightman missing the first 3 months, I think Arty Jones is almost certainly the replacement. And he played very well in the match sim.

                      A smokey though... do we see Hynes get an early debut? Taller than Flea but plays a similar role and he might be the only guy who can replace Weightman's "special". Or Dolan? Will be very interesting.

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                      • SquirrelGrip
                        Senior Player
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 1555

                        #582
                        Originally posted by JackCJohnston2000
                        With Weightman missing the first 3 months, I think Arty Jones is almost certainly the replacement. And he played very well in the match sim.

                        A smokey though... do we see Hynes get an early debut? Taller than Flea but plays a similar role and he might be the only guy who can replace Weightman's "special". Or Dolan? Will be very interesting.
                        Actually think it opens the door for Harmes.
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                        • Garbs_7
                          Rookie List
                          • Jan 2025
                          • 145

                          #583
                          Cody out really really hurts, digging too deep into our depth now and with a tough first part of the season early on, we could really be behind the 8 ball early on. Arty, Hynes or maybe Dolan might be a shot now, although none are near the level of a healthy Cody yet...

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                          • GVGjr
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 45587

                            #584
                            Originally posted by JackCJohnston2000
                            With Weightman missing the first 3 months, I think Arty Jones is almost certainly the replacement. And he played very well in the match sim.

                            A smokey though... do we see Hynes get an early debut? Taller than Flea but plays a similar role and he might be the only guy who can replace Weightman's "special". Or Dolan? Will be very interesting.
                            Cody is a small forward who plays taller. If we wanted to maintain that would Davidson be the answer? Jones or Poulter could fill in on the wing?
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                            • Go_Dogs
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 10258

                              #585
                              Gee it’s getting harder now with all the injuries. I think it goes something like:

                              Duryea, Buss, Bramble
                              Dale, Lobb, Fridge
                              Williams, Libba, Davidson
                              Kennedy, Naughts, VDM
                              West, Darce, McNeil
                              English, Bont, Richards
                              Sanders, JOD, Harmes, Gags
                              Garcia
                              Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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