stats, stats, stats

[AndrewP6]

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I can't confirm this but a guy at work told me today that after 2 rounds St.Kilda lead the inside 15's!

Made me spill a bit of my drink.

[Bulldog Joe]

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I like your views on Minson. Hudson is better at the moment but Minson could very well be the number 1 ruckman for us next season.

Thanks.

Hudson is clearly the best clearance player much like Scott Wynd. Unfortunately he has never been a player to take many marks.

Roughead looks more likely to develop into a marking ruckman, but his ruckwork seems a long way off.

Will can be very important while Roughy and Cordy develop.

The official Williamstown report gave Minson a nice wrap for his work forward as well.

[1eyedog]

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Hardness is fine, but our achilles heel is disposal under pressure, and if youre not part of the solution, then youre part of the problem.

Libba is definitely part of the solution.

Yes but you've got to be able to win your own hard ball against top quality opposition before you can dispose of it incorrectly.

Strong, quick hard-bodied players who win their own ball and have excellent disposal under pressure are like hens teeth.

I would say each club has no more than two of them.

[stefoid]

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Yes but you've got to be able to win your own hard ball against top quality opposition before you can dispose of it incorrectly.

Strong, quick hard-bodied players who win their own ball and have excellent disposal under pressure are like hens teeth.

I would say each club has no more than two of them.

You can also receive it like Sherman and Griffen. I would also be playing Cooney in a more outside role. We know he CAN win his own hard ball, but given the number of players we have that can play inside and have dodgy disposal, I think cooney is more use to us outside.

[Ghost Dog]

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You can also receive it like Sherman and Griffen. I would also be playing Cooney in a more outside role. We know he CAN win his own hard ball, but given the number of players we have that can play inside and have dodgy disposal, I think cooney is more use to us outside.

good point stefoid. He's also a great finisher closer to goal. If he does get a free within goal range, good set shot.

[BulldogBelle]

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I like the stat they give in the Hun of total distance gained over the game per player. That has to be a good thing

Griff won it last week I think by a big margin.

[Bornadog]

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I like the stat they give in the Hun of total distance gained over the game per player. That has to be a good thing

Griff won it last week I think by a big margin.

Do you mean run and bounce? Interestingly Rob Murphy leads the AFL with run and bounce followed by Del SAnto who is equal with Josh Hill, and Heath Shaw. Murph is also second to Richmonds Newman for rebound 50's.

[Scorlibo]

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Do you mean run and bounce? Interestingly Rob Murphy leads the AFL with run and bounce followed by Del SAnto who is equal with Josh Hill, and Heath Shaw. Murph is also second to Richmonds Newman for rebound 50's.

I think F32 means total metres gained - including how far the player's run and disposal carry the ball towards goal. Griffen usually dominates the stat due to his long kicking.

An interesting stat you provide with run and bounce. Bob has been in AA form in the first few rounds, could even have a few votes in the brownlow to this stage. Josh Hill has been an excellent surprise, and to have them both providing the equal best run and carry in the league to this stage is comforting.

[LostDoggy]

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scoring assists leaderboard - that crucial last disposal to the guy who has the shot.
1 Daniel Giansiracusa 2.0
1 Shaun Higgins 2.0
1 Jordan Roughead 2.0
1 Thomas Liberatore 2.0
1 Jarrad Grant 2.0
1 Ryan Griffen 2.0

Very underrated stat this.
I know it is very "American" but an assist is a major stat. Most cases the last and second last peson to touch the ball before a goal has worked his backside off, then the glory boys finish the job.

[1eyedog]

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Do you mean run and bounce? Interestingly Rob Murphy leads the AFL with run and bounce followed by Del SAnto who is equal with Josh Hill, and Heath Shaw. Murph is also second to Richmonds Newman for rebound 50's.

Some players bounce it 3 times over 20 metres.

[Greystache]

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Some players bounce it 3 times over 20 metres.

The David King rule!

[Bornadog]

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Interesting stats come out of Saturdays game. Basically statistically (except score) we beat the Swans in most areas, it just a shame we couldn't captilise on it.

Contested possessions, we won 176/173

Uncontested a whopping 260/206

Tackles inside 50 11/7

Tackles overall, we were down by 10

Most other stats were even like hitouts, inside 50, etc

Free kicks 15 to 24, in my opinion disgraceful as many frees to the Swans were soft and there was no consistency.

Overall in the AFL we are getting a lot of the ball and sit 4th for disposals, but we are just not using the ball properly. I think this is due to our midfield who get alot of the ball but are not damging enough to the opposition. Boyd is 3rd on average disposals and Cross and Griffen are in the top 15 in the AFL, but effective disposals are less than 70% with Griffen sitting on 62%.

Our midfield needs to work harder on their skills and become damaging.

[BulldogBelle]

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Interesting stats come out of Saturdays game. Basically statistically (except score) we beat the Swans in most areas, it just a shame we couldn't captilise on it.

Contested possessions, we won 176/173

Uncontested a whopping 260/206

Tackles inside 50 11/7

Tackles overall, we were down by 10

Most other stats were even like hitouts, inside 50, etc

Free kicks 15 to 24, in my opinion disgraceful as many frees to the Swans were soft and there was no consistency.

Overall in the AFL we are getting a lot of the ball and sit 4th for disposals, but we are just not using the ball properly. I think this is due to our midfield who get alot of the ball but are not damging enough to the opposition. Boyd is 3rd on average disposals and Cross and Griffen are in the top 15 in the AFL, but effective disposals are less than 70% with Griffen sitting on 62%.

Our midfield needs to work harder on their skills and become damaging.

Thanks bornadog

Do you have any numbers on effective disposals split by our midfielders???

And how this compared to other sides

We really need some outside players to step up and use the ball properly...

[Bornadog]

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Thanks bornadog

Do you have any numbers on effective disposals split by our midfielders???

And how this compared to other sides

We really need some outside players to step up and use the ball properly...

Top AFL AVERAGE DISPOSALS with effective disposals

1. Sam Mitchell - 74.5
2. D Swan - 70.3
3. Boyd - 68.3
4. J Watson - 70.1
5. M. Murphy - 71.3
6. Mundy - 76.9

12. Cross - 73.9
12. C Judd - 64

15. R Griffen - 62.3

24. Higgins (4 games only) 62.4

49. Cooney - 62.6

Cross hasn't been too bad, but Boyd really needs to lift. The outside players are way down.

[EasternWest]

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Top AFL AVERAGE DISPOSALS with effective disposals

1. Sam Mitchell - 74.5
2. D Swan - 70.3
3. Boyd - 68.3
4. J Watson - 70.1
5. M. Murphy - 71.3
6. Mundy - 76.9

12. Cross - 73.9
12. C Judd - 64

15. R Griffen - 62.3

24. Higgins (4 games only) 62.4

49. Cooney - 62.6

Cross hasn't been too bad, but Boyd really needs to lift. The outside players are way down.

What percentage makes for an acceptable pass mark? Not being facetious, serious question.