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  • Mofra
    Hall of Fame
    • Dec 2006
    • 14950

    Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

    Originally posted by Throughandthrough
    Suggestions in today's paper that the Crows may need to trade out Andy Otten. I would seriously look at that, especially now that Lake has gone. They are also toying with cutting Tambling. Lol
    Interesting- he looked good in 2010? Still more of a rebounder than genuine KPD is he?

    Of course if we get Plowman we wont need him
    Last edited by GVGjr; 20-10-2012, 10:34 AM. Reason: Fixed typos in quote
    Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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    • DOG GOD
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jul 2007
      • 6545

      Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

      Often would be a good replacement for Hargrave as they play a similar role. Taking the 3rd tall fwd is his best spot. Would be interesting to see what they would want for him. Straight swap for Sherman?
      I will never see #16 the same!!

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      • Throughandthrough
        Coaching Staff
        • Nov 2007
        • 3201

        Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

        Originally posted by DOG GOD
        Often would be a good replacement for Hargrave as they play a similar role. Taking the 3rd tall fwd is his best spot. Would be interesting to see what they would want for him. Straight swap for Sherman?
        I think he is more of a KPP than a rebounding defender. Has a knee reco in 2011 and supposedly lost some speed this year, Played some solid matches for South Adelaide in the SANFL this year.


        Not sure how tall he is but i suspect he's be about Tom Williams height?

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        • Doc26
          Coaching Staff
          • Sep 2009
          • 3087

          Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

          Originally posted by DOG GOD
          Often would be a good replacement for Hargrave as they play a similar role. Taking the 3rd tall fwd is his best spot. Would be interesting to see what they would want for him. Straight swap for Sherman?
          With Rutten in his twilight, the loss of Bock and Davis in consecutive seasons, Sam Shaw still raw and Talia next to join his brother to be a part of our dynasty should surely mean Otten would be a required player at Adelaide.

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          • KT31
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Jul 2008
            • 5454

            Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

            Originally posted by Doc26
            With Rutten in his twilight, the loss of Bock and Davis in consecutive seasons, Sam Shaw still raw and Talia next to join his brother to be a part of our dynasty should surely mean Otten would be a required player at Adelaide.
            I'm assuming a wishful thinking because he Grandad was and his brother is a Doggie.
            Or do you know something ?
            It's better to die on our feet than live on our knees.

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            • Doc26
              Coaching Staff
              • Sep 2009
              • 3087

              Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

              Originally posted by KT31
              I'm assuming a wishful thinking because he Grandad was and his brother is a Doggie.
              Or do you know something ?
              Nah KT just wishful thinking but wouldn't it be nice to see, and throw the Reid's in as well.

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              • The Bulldogs Bite
                Hall of Fame
                • Dec 2006
                • 11246

                Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                Never really rated Otten outside of that one decent year.

                He's easily buffered out of position and I'd question both his intensity and particularly 'pace' of decision making (for lack of a better description).
                W00F!

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                • Raw Toast
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 982

                  Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                  Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
                  Never really rated Otten outside of that one decent year.

                  He's easily buffered out of position and I'd question both his intensity and particularly 'pace' of decision making (for lack of a better description).
                  I did like Otten that year as well and haven't seen enough of him recently to comment. But the Americans often say that the game at the most elite level is too fast for certain players when talking about players who struggle to make correct decisions in the very limited time available.
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                  • lemmon
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 6521

                    Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                    Now who is Tom Young??

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                    • Sedat
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 11248

                      Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                      So we have added Hunter, Stevens and Young to the main list, with picks 5, 6, 22 and 51 to come. By my reckoning, that's 7 new draftees/trades, with 7 already confirmed outgoing players from our 2012 senior list: Hargrave, Gilbee, Lake, Hooper, Mulligan, Moles, Djerkurra.

                      We then have up to 4 potential rookie elevations in Jong, Austin, JJ and Campbell - you'd think at least 2 of these will be elevated, so worst case 9 into 7 doesn't go. There must still be some last minute trade-outs/delistings to play out at the kennel. I'd imagine all of Tom Hill, Sherman, Skinner, Vesz and Panos having a few sleepless nights until the final list lodgements.

                      Is there any chance of trading out a Sherman for a late pick or even a slight pick upgrade?
                      "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                      • Axe Man
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 11166

                        Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                        Originally posted by Sedat
                        So we have added Hunter, Stevens and Young to the main list, with picks 5, 6, 22 and 51 to come. By my reckoning, that's 7 new draftees/trades, with 7 already confirmed outgoing players from our 2012 senior list: Hargrave, Gilbee, Lake, Hooper, Mulligan, Moles, Djerkurra.

                        We then have up to 4 potential rookie elevations in Jong, Austin, JJ and Campbell - you'd think at least 2 of these will be elevated, so worst case 9 into 7 doesn't go. There must still be some last minute trade-outs/delistings to play out at the kennel. I'd imagine all of Tom Hill, Sherman, Skinner, Vesz and Panos having a few sleepless nights until the final list lodgements.

                        Is there any chance of trading out a Sherman for a late pick or even a slight pick upgrade?
                        Tom Hill has already been delisted. Despite 387 suggestions on this board to trade Sherman I highly doubt it will happen.

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                        • Sedat
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 11248

                          Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                          Originally posted by Axe Man
                          Tom Hill has already been delisted. Despite 387 suggestions on this board to trade Sherman I highly doubt it will happen.
                          Allow us to dream Axe Man

                          So still at least one more delisting by my maths, unless we don't use pick 51 (or just use it to elevate one of the rookies). Weren't we bragging about having 5 picks inside the top 50 a couple of weeks ago??
                          "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                          • whythelongface
                            Coaching Staff
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 4487

                            Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                            Originally posted by Sedat
                            So we have added Hunter, Stevens and Young to the main list, with picks 5, 6, 22 and 51 to come. By my reckoning, that's 7 new draftees/trades, with 7 already confirmed outgoing players from our 2012 senior list: Hargrave, Gilbee, Lake, Hooper, Mulligan, Moles, Djerkurra.

                            We then have up to 4 potential rookie elevations in Jong, Austin, JJ and Campbell - you'd think at least 2 of these will be elevated, so worst case 9 into 7 doesn't go. There must still be some last minute trade-outs/delistings to play out at the kennel. I'd imagine all of Tom Hill, Sherman, Skinner, Vesz and Panos having a few sleepless nights until the final list lodgements.

                            Is there any chance of trading out a Sherman for a late pick or even a slight pick upgrade?

                            Hasn't Panos been delisted?

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                            • Axe Man
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 11166

                              Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                              Originally posted by whythelongface
                              Hasn't Panos been delisted?
                              Not officially as far as I'm aware, unless you know something we don't?

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                              • whythelongface
                                Coaching Staff
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 4487

                                Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                                Originally posted by Axe Man
                                Not officially as far as I'm aware, unless you know something we don't?
                                No just thought I read previously he had been. My bad.

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