Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

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  • Dogmatic

    #1621
    Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

    I actually think Sherman isn't a bad player. He goes in hard, he has some pace and he can kick goals. He was obviously not in favor this year, but I haven't given up on him yet. He's better than many others in our team and at least has some pace, which we desperately lack. I hope he can turn it around.

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    • jeemak
      Bulldog Legend
      • Oct 2010
      • 22150

      #1622
      Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

      Thing is though, when a new coach and direction comes along there's going to be some collateral damage in the form of reasonable or good players that don't fit the plan.

      It can be a bit unreasonable when it comes to the assessment of these types of players, but when rebuilding a list hard decisions need to be made. Players in Sherman's position don't get the opportunities they might under different circumstances, and they sometimes react to that poorly and often end up very much maligned by the match committee and the supporter base.

      Sherman played some very good football for us last year though, and his only chance of being a required player for us going forwards is if he can take the steps to modify his game to the extent the coaching staff need him to, or we start moving the ball well enough for players like him to finish off good work and become useful as a result.

      For mine, I'm not convinced things will work out for him with respect to the former or the latter, and if he's still on our list in 2013 he'll be treading water.
      TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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      • Sedat
        Hall of Fame
        • Sep 2007
        • 11602

        #1623
        Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

        You can't teach good decision-making, especially on a player who has spent 8 years in the system and has been a dreadful decision-maker his entire AFL career.

        How handy would the Harbrow compensation pick have been if we he onto it until this draft
        "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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        • Topdog
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Jan 2007
          • 7483

          #1624
          Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

          Originally posted by Sedat
          You can't teach good decision-making, especially on a player who has spent 8 years in the system and has been a dreadful decision-maker his entire AFL career.

          How handy would the Harbrow compensation pick have been if we he onto it until this draft
          or even waited til next draft - actually the Ward one next year would have been good too. We'll be bottom 4 next year with Melb not getting a compo pick

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          • stefoid
            Senior Player
            • Dec 2009
            • 1846

            #1625
            Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

            Originally posted by Sedat
            You can't teach good decision-making, especially on a player who has spent 8 years in the system and has been a dreadful decision-maker his entire AFL career.

            How handy would the Harbrow compensation pick have been if we he onto it until this draft
            very very?

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            • Missing Dog
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 8501

              #1626
              Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

              Originally posted by Petergm
              I have never heard of him? We have suffered enough experimental trades with with Geelong.

              Tim Callan
              Nathan Djerrura
              Brody Moles
              Peter Street
              Ok I hear you but what about Mathew Robbins he was a gun pick up from the Cattery !!!!!!

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              • Hotdog60
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Aug 2009
                • 6014

                #1627
                Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                From the AFL site. LINK

                Could be worth a rookie look if we are chasing hard players with good skills.

                BRADY Jones

                A tough, inside midfielder at 183cm and 79kg and boasting a penetrating kick, Jones handled the move from bush footy to the state's best competition with aplomb

                His management, Velocity Sports, is confident Jones will be a late selection in this year’s NAB AFL Draft, or at least snapped up in the rookie draft.

                If he misses out completely, Jones says he would consider moving to Victoria to play in the VFL.

                Sanders, though, believes AFL clubs requiring a midfielder who can provide inside grunt, coupled with a laser-like right boot and huge scope for improvement, should take a chance on Jones this year, not next.

                "It's probably too early to tell [if he might get drafted] but if a club's after a tough inside midfielder who kicks it well, he could sneak onto a list or maybe be rookied. He'll leave no stone unturned to make the most of it, that's for sure," Sanders said.
                Don't piss off old people
                The older we get the less "LIFE IN PRISON" is a deterrent...

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                • LostDoggy
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 8307

                  #1628
                  Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                  Originally posted by Hotdog60
                  From the AFL site. LINK

                  Could be worth a rookie look if we are chasing hard players with good skills.

                  BRADY Jones

                  A tough, inside midfielder at 183cm and 79kg and boasting a penetrating kick, Jones handled the move from bush footy to the state's best competition with aplomb

                  His management, Velocity Sports, is confident Jones will be a late selection in this year’s NAB AFL Draft, or at least snapped up in the rookie draft.

                  If he misses out completely, Jones says he would consider moving to Victoria to play in the VFL.

                  Sanders, though, believes AFL clubs requiring a midfielder who can provide inside grunt, coupled with a laser-like right boot and huge scope for improvement, should take a chance on Jones this year, not next.

                  "It's probably too early to tell [if he might get drafted] but if a club's after a tough inside midfielder who kicks it well, he could sneak onto a list or maybe be rookied. He'll leave no stone unturned to make the most of it, that's for sure," Sanders said.
                  From my home town in Tasmania. Very talented sportsman by all reports, although I don't think I ever saw him play footy down there.

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                  • Dry Rot
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 6471

                    #1629
                    Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                    If we could do it, would it be really worth upgrading pick 21 to say pick 16?
                    The fight is here; I need ammunition, not a ride.

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                    • DOG GOD
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 6617

                      #1630
                      Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                      Originally posted by Dry Rot
                      If we could do it, would it be really worth upgrading pick 21 to say pick 16?
                      I'd say yes Dry Rot, but making it happen would be another issue
                      I will never see #16 the same!!

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                      • Dry Rot
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 6471

                        #1631
                        Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                        Originally posted by DOG GOD
                        I'd say yes Dry Rot, but making it happen would be another issue
                        Dogs give Grant + pick 21


                        Pies give Pick 17
                        The fight is here; I need ammunition, not a ride.

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                        • azabob
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 15481

                          #1632
                          Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                          Originally posted by Dry Rot
                          Dogs give Grant + pick 21


                          Pies give Pick 17
                          Do you agree Grant has ability? His issue is consistency or for you is it something else?
                          More of an In Bruges guy?

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                          • Dry Rot
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 6471

                            #1633
                            Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                            Originally posted by azabob
                            Do you agree Grant has ability? His issue is consistency or for you is it something else?
                            Been five years in the system IIRC. Lacks intensity among other things. Would entertain a trade for him.
                            The fight is here; I need ammunition, not a ride.

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                            • DOG GOD
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jul 2007
                              • 6617

                              #1634
                              Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                              I'd also entertain to trade him out if it meant getting a pick in the teens.
                              I will never see #16 the same!!

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                              • AndrewP6
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 8142

                                #1635
                                Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                                I'd do it in a second. I'm sure Rocket would love him back

                                He's had his chance, in my book.
                                [B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]

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