Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

**G-Mo77** · 16-10-2012, 03:23 PM

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

Originally posted by Dog54

Matt Campbell from kangaroos wants to be traded. We really lack a small goal kicking target with genuine pace. I think it is worth enquiring ??? I think pick 47 would be fair.

We've got lower picks that I think would do the job, much lower but not interested in him at all to be honest. He's shown very little improvement over his whole career, 25 years of age and has been at AFL level for 6 years. We'd do better in the draft.

**dog town** · 16-10-2012, 03:42 PM

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

I fear if we lose Grant we are a fair chance to have to sit back and watch another side make him into a star. Back our development and coaching guys in. The potential of the guy is not in question.

**GVGjr** · 16-10-2012, 03:45 PM

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

Originally posted by dog town

I fear if we lose Grant we are a fair chance to have to sit back and watch another side make him into a star. Back our development and coaching guys in. The potential of the guy is not in question.

Totally agree. He has a challenge to answer but we need to give it another season to make it work.

**AndrewP6** · 16-10-2012, 05:05 PM

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How many "one more year" do we give him. Five's enough,in my book. Potential only gets you so far.

**Bornadog** · 16-10-2012, 05:18 PM

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Originally posted by AndrewP6

How many "one more year" do we give him. Five's enough,in my book. Potential only gets you so far.

What about the old adage, talls take longer to mature. He should be just about there next year.

**soupman** · 16-10-2012, 06:07 PM

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

Originally posted by F'scary

(Grant).

His trade value will only continue to decline with another season. Therefore trade him now.

Sure but his trade value isn't exactly high ATM, so we don't really lose that much value should he not come on. Ie. people are discussing using him to get a 5 pick upgrade. Screw that, Grant still has the attributed to be a very good player and at times this year and certainly in past years he has shown he is more than capable. I'd rather delist him in two years saying we tried than cut our losses for a shitty pick upgrade now.

I believe Grant will make it.

**always right** · 16-10-2012, 07:04 PM

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

Originally posted by soupaman

Sure but his trade value isn't exactly high ATM, so we don't really lose that much value should he not come on. Ie. people are discussing using him to get a 5 pick upgrade. Screw that, Grant still has the attributed to be a very good player and at times this year and certainly in past years he has shown he is more than capable. I'd rather delist him in two years saying we tried than cut our losses for a shitty pick upgrade now.

I believe Grant will make it.

^^^^^^^this

**1eyedog** · 16-10-2012, 08:31 PM

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

x2 good post

**stefoid** · 16-10-2012, 08:33 PM

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

Originally posted by bornadog

Why would Lake want to go GWS??

WE'll never know, will we?

FWIW, I think he just wanted out and trundled out the old 'premiership' line. If GWS had offered a longer contract on good money, he would have taken it.

**stefoid** · 16-10-2012, 08:36 PM

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Grant wont see the outside of the gym for the next 4 months, unless it is to do 10km time trials dragging a monster truck tyre.

We'll know one way or the other next year, thats for sure.

**F'scary** · 16-10-2012, 08:49 PM

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

Originally posted by stefoid

Grant wont see the outside of the gym for the next 4 months, unless it is to do 10km time trials dragging a monster truck tyre.

We'll know one way or the other next year, thats for sure.

On the radio broadcasts of your games, the commentators call him "Skinny" Grant. Is this what you are referring to?

**stefoid** · 16-10-2012, 09:05 PM

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

Originally posted by F'scary

On the radio broadcasts of your games, the commentators call him "Skinny" Grant. Is this what you are referring to?

affirmative

**LostDoggy** · 16-10-2012, 10:26 PM

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

I don't have 'whipping boys' normally but to me every time Grant stuffs up/doesn't do the right thing I curse. I think I do this because I know he's no good but maybe it's because any moment I expect all that 'talent' to click.

It's easy to say he doesn't work hard enough as people said about Josh Hill and Eagleton(rightly or wrongly)One things for sure though, if Grant didn't work hard enough McCartney would be showing him the door this year. So my theory is that if he's listening and learning than Macca will retain him and that's all I can ask of Grant. To keep working.

**LostDoggy** · 16-10-2012, 11:22 PM

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Originally posted by Butane

I don't have 'whipping boys' normally but to me every time Grant stuffs up/doesn't do the right thing I curse. I think I do this because I know he's no good but maybe it's because any moment I expect all that 'talent' to click.

It's easy to say he doesn't work hard enough as people said about Josh Hill and Eagleton(rightly or wrongly)One things for sure though, if Grant didn't work hard enough McCartney would be showing him the door this year. So my theory is that if he's listening and learning than Macca will retain him and that's all I can ask of Grant. To keep working.

You lost me when you said Eagle didn't work hard, that was one thing he did exceptionally well and we have missed (I can't believe I am defending Eagle

)

Understand the frustration on Grant, but don't think we should offload him for a song, happy to see what happens with him - its part of the fun and frustration of supporting.

As insurance re Grant (and Cordy and Jones) I am wondering if our Pick 41 may end up with Geelong for Mitch Brown, and we land Gumbleton for less than that.

It doesn't appear we will get Koby Stevens if the price is a pick in the 30's, not too fussed on this one.

Hopefully we nail Pick 5 and 6 - hopefully we get fast (of mind and foot) with good penetrating kicks.

It will be interesting to compare our position to Melbourne's in say three years. If we play our cards right, we may be way in front.

**whythelongface** · 17-10-2012, 09:29 AM

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

Originally posted by soupaman

Sure but his trade value isn't exactly high ATM, so we don't really lose that much value should he not come on. Ie. people are discussing using him to get a 5 pick upgrade. Screw that, Grant still has the attributed to be a very good player and at times this year and certainly in past years he has shown he is more than capable. I'd rather delist him in two years saying we tried than cut our losses for a shitty pick upgrade now.

I believe Grant will make it.

Good post. His trade value at the moment would a very low draft pick based on what he has achieved thus far, therefore we are better off holding onto him and seeing what he can achieve over the next year or two.

I am not confident that he will make it but see that there is a definite upside to his game.

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