Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

[LostDoggy]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

Yes a pick in the teens for Grant yet we don't think Dawes is worth 21.

[AndrewP6]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

Yes a pick in the teens for Grant yet we don't think Dawes is worth 21.

True,don't see it happening, but I'd like it!

[Desipura]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

I thought Dry Rot was proposing giving the pies Grant and pick 21 for the pies pick 16.
I don't think he is saying pick 16 for Grant.

[Missing Dog]

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It would be a Huge Mistake if we Traded Grant.
I know he has had 5 years at Our Club but remeber first year had the injury which
kept him out for the season he is only 23 just think he needs a bit of confidence and Granty
will be okay.

[BulldogBelle]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

It would be a Huge Mistake if we Traded Grant.
I know he has had 5 years at Our Club but remeber first year had the injury which
kept him out for the season he is only 23 just think he needs a bit of confidence and Granty
will be okay.

Completely agree, there are few players with his ability and composure to finish on both feet. Very clinical. He may lack intensity, but if we can keep developing him he has the attributes to be a very good player!

[Dry Rot]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

I thought Dry Rot was proposing giving the pies Grant and pick 21 for the pies pick 16.
I don't think he is saying pick 16 for Grant.

Correct.

[1eyedog]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

Completely agree, there are few players with his ability and composure to finish on both feet. Very clinical. He may lack intensity, but if we can keep developing him he has the attributes to be a very good player!

Agreed. Not all players have a high level of intensity, I'm not sure all players are expected to. Specific players have specific roles, strengths and weaknesses, a high level of intensity is not one of Grant's. I wouldn't even call Bob Murphy a player with an ultra high intensity rate when the opposition have the ball.

Gifted players who read space well and are quick should not charging head first into packs or chasing down every single man at 100% until the ball is out of their sphere of influence, there are role players for that IMO, e.g. defensive forwards. I agree that Macca has tried to instigate a bit of this in Grant's game but one of Grant's main roles, as far as I can see it, is to take advantage of the grunt work of others and to get on the end of turn overs. Grant is a good finisher when he is not taking a set shot and needs to be well positioned to kick the goal and/or assist in the goal. Running around after every bloke with the ball will not allow him to be in this position often enough to be effective.

I reckon Grant will be a good player next season. I'd hate to cut him loose without one last look at him, there is too much upside for me.

[always right]

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He's been disappointing so far but he is one of very few in our club with some x-factor. I think we can afford to keep him. Would hate to see him turn it on against us.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

He's been disappointing so far but he is one of very few in our club with some x-factor. I think we can afford to keep him. Would hate to see him turn it on against us.

Yep, would rather see Sherman go instead.

[GVGjr]

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If we could do it, would it be really worth upgrading pick 21 to say pick 16?

Dependent on who we trade of course, but an upgrade into the mid teens could make this draft for us, when coupled with picks 5 & 6 plus Hunter.
We should move heaven and earth to achieve this option.

[GVGjr]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

Dogs give Grant + pick 21


Pies give Pick 17

Who is at around pick 17 that you think warrants this move? Or is it just a case that you want to jettison Grant?

[Missing Dog]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

Who is at around pick 17 that you think warrants this move? Or is it just a case that you want to jettison Grant?

Thats the point isn't it is there a player we want who the club thinks won't last until 21 otherwise not worth it. I still think Grant deserves another chance and would hate to lose him.

[Dry Rot]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

Who is at around pick 17 that you think warrants this move? Or is it just a case that you want to jettison Grant?

No particular one, and yes we could pick a real dud at #17.

However, I've read on on a few forums that interesting picks could fall lower in this draft.

And maybe worth picking up.

The other side of the equation, I see Grant as another Clayton pick # first round cluster ****.

[Desipura]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

Who is at around pick 17 that you think warrants this move? Or is it just a case that you want to jettison Grant?

We can then give them pick 17 back for Dawes No thanks.

[FrediKanoute]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

Dogs give Grant + pick 21


Pies give Pick 17

Madness!!!!! Grant remains our best tallish forward option. He is a better footballer than Jones and if we give him away now he willl blossom as a player into a gun. Put him alongside a decent tall forward and he will deliver.

I'm not convinved its intencity with Grant, more a combination of expectation and an inablity to put on size.