Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

[GVGjr]

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Assuming it is a 2 year contract. If Hoskin Elliott clearly wants to come home ( not saying this is the case), would it not make sense for GWS to trade him now rather than wait until his contract expires?

I think they would back themselves to turn his thoughts around. I'd certainly wait.

[Sedat]

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Was All Australian in the TAC. if that counts. Have no idea. I fear lightly built players now.

Do you fear Lewis Jetta? I fear him when he plays against us.

Morton is not overly quick and he certainly doesn't fit the 'crack in' mantra. He is the classic in-betweener - opposition mids burn him off and he's nowhere near strong enough or have that competitive animal instinct to develop into a KPP. If Hoskin-Elliot has elite skills and is elite with his pace, I would love his type at our club. I'll defer to those that have seen more of him in action than me.

[Ghost Dog]

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Do you fear Lewis Jetta? I fear him when he plays against us.

Morton is not overly quick and he certainly doesn't fit the 'crack in' mantra. He is the classic in-betweener - opposition mids burn him off and he's nowhere near strong enough or have that competitive animal instinct to develop into a KPP. If Hoskin-Elliot has elite skills and is elite with his pace, I would love his type at our club. I'll defer to those that have seen more of him in action than me.

Yes I fear Lewis Jetta. Cuts us to shreds!
I take your point. Let me rephrase that. I fear selecting them only when WE pick them! Farren Ray, Grant, etc etc

[Greystache]

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Do you fear Lewis Jetta? I fear him when he plays against us.

Morton is not overly quick and he certainly doesn't fit the 'crack in' mantra. He is the classic in-betweener - opposition mids burn him off and he's nowhere near strong enough or have that competitive animal instinct to develop into a KPP. If Hoskin-Elliot has elite skills and is elite with his pace, I would love his type at our club. I'll defer to those that have seen more of him in action than me.

That's the issue for me, he's not quick, not quick at all. He is elite for endurance (top 1%) but a skinny midfielder without pace is a concern for me. Good judges rate him highly, but he could also be another Farren Ray.

[Maddog37]

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Or another Robbie Flower.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

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Or another Robbie Flower.

More of a chance he is the former.

The comparison with Morton, for mine, is a very good one from what I've seen.

[BulldogBelle]

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Watched him come through and I was very suprised he went so highly. I think in an uncompromised draft he would have slipped a fair way back. Outside player, skinny, not that quick, not overly skilled. A good ordinary player. However, I have heard he wants to return home.
We often talk on here about loyalty and how much of a virtue it is. I personally don't think much of any player who says thanks for the opportunity to play AFL, but I'm out of here. Especially if you go in the top 10.

[FrediKanoute]

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We often talk on here about loyalty and how much of a virtue it is. I personally don't think much of any player who says thanks for the opportunity to play AFL, but I'm out of here. Especially if you go in the top 10.

I take your point, but its also a little different. In the last 2 seasons a significant number of players have been drafted by 2 teams, which means more players than normal went interstate (from Victoria). Also their deals are all likely to mature at the same time, meaning that GWS and GCS can't fit all in their salary caps. Most clubs have a degree of attrition in terms of draftees, this is nothing different except that their draftees are generally pretty exceptional.

[jeemak]

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A snippet on this player above. Lightly built, but a good long kick.
Some other vision on YT.






Sort of reminds me of Fletcher Roberts.

These clips show a very smart player, with pace (of mind and thought) as well as foot skill and ball reading ability.

Can anyone around here tell us more about him? Having a great Beep result is one thing, but does he actually have sustainable repeat effor ability on the back of maturing into a body that can compete?

I'll be honest and say from looking at him on the clips above and one or two others I've seen he looks like a footballer of high quality.

[KT31]

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From the clips he looks like he would easily be in our best 22, ready made player and will improve the side next season.
Just comes down to price.

[Bulldog Revolution]

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Hoskin Elliot looks like a suped up version of Isaac Smith to me rather than Cale Morton

Regardless he wont be going anywhere this year

[Mofra]

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We often talk on here about loyalty and how much of a virtue it is. I personally don't think much of any player who says thanks for the opportunity to play AFL, but I'm out of here. Especially if you go in the top 10.

Nathan Buckley worked out well for Collingwood. Soemtimes players have a club or state they want to play in.

[Missing Dog]

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These clips show a very smart player, with pace (of mind and thought) as well as foot skill and ball reading ability.

Can anyone around here tell us more about him? Having a great Beep result is one thing, but does he actually have sustainable repeat effor ability on the back of maturing into a body that can compete?

I'll be honest and say from looking at him on the clips above and one or two others I've seen he looks like a footballer of high quality.

I had him at 6 in my phantom draft last year. Plays more like a Fyfe rather then a Jetta.

- Rarely fumbles
- very good overhead mark
- Reads the play well
- Links up well
- Tested good in the repeat sprints and really well for endurance. He doesn't have elite pace though, has elite endurance 15.12 in beep test, 9.53 for 3km (2nd best in combine)
- Uses the ball pretty well, makes smart decisions. Wouldn't put him in the elite category though
- Did a good defensive job in at least one game I saw in the champs, so has that ability
- Has the ability to win contested ball, but doesn't win enough of it. Can have some very quiet games because of this
- Has a very quiet personality according to Emma Quayle.

He was picked up at 4 last year, so we would have to give up pick 6 at the very least if we want him.

[azabob]

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Does the trading for mini draft pick happening during the trade period as surely that will have an impact what we do.

I would think we would want to keep one of our first two picks.

[Go_Dogs]

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Does the trading for mini draft pick happening during the trade period as surely that will have an impact what we do.

I would think we would want to keep one of our first two picks.

Yes it does.

It's hard to say whether we should or would want to keep one of them. If we could get Martin and Hoskin Elliott with those picks, that may be a better outcome than getting say, Toumpass/Plowman/Mayes etc. Hoskin Elliott would play a lot of footy for us in 2013, and we know how highly Martin is rated.