Whats our bigger issue?

[Missing-Dog]

So what our bigger issue?
No forward line or poor midfield delivery?
We need more goals!

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Whats our bigger issue?

So what our bigger issue?
No forward line or poor midfield delivery?
We need more goals!

Skills!!
The amount of times we had numbers forward, the run of play, and someone stuffs up a little handpass or short kick.
Liam Jones, just missed a few very easy ones. Grant - Higgins - Dahlhaus - all missed fairly easy ones today.

[Eastdog]

Re: Whats our bigger issue?

Lake was very poor today. I think our forward as I think our midfield is not too bad.

[SlimPickens]

Re: Whats our bigger issue?

Lake was very poor today. I think our forward as I think our midfield is not too bad.

So Lake is our biggest problem???

[Eastdog]

Re: Whats our bigger issue?

So Lake is our biggest problem???

No I don't think he is our biggest problem it is just that he hasn't got back to his best yet at that might take some time. Don't forget though Lake is getting on a little now.

[mjp]

Re: Whats our bigger issue?

Lack of flexibility in defensive match-ups versus a MASSIVE side. Better opportunity against Adelaide.

[SlimPickens]

Re: Whats our bigger issue?

No I don't think he is our biggest problem it is just that he hasn't got back to his best yet at that might take some time. Don't forget though Lake is getting on a little now.

That's fine. So Lake isn't our biggest issues? Let's keep the thread on track

[AndrewP6]

Re: Whats our bigger issue?

Skills skills skills skills skills skills.

Our skill level is at times woeful. Little point in getting the ball if you can't do any damage with it (our if you give it straight back)

[LostDoggy]

Re: Whats our bigger issue?

So what our bigger issue?
No forward line or poor midfield delivery?
We need more goals!

Your looking at the wrong end of the ground , once again we have to focus totally on our defense , Lake is only just making his way back today 8 disposals and 3 marks , Markovic is a solid defender but he needed support 11 disposals 3 marks , Howard is only young and Macca put him in defense as he is a good user of the ball by foot but he had a quiet game 11 disposals 3 marks , Murphy is class but he was outbodied and moved up the ground 19 disposals 3 marks , Addison had a role to play but he's not a Morris clone 12 disposals 4 marks , Hargrave was lively but untidy 24 disposals 7 marks , our backline as named had a total of 8 tackles and thats just not enough pressure

Unless we get our backline balance right our defense will leak more goals than a taller forward line would score

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[angelopetraglia]

Re: Whats our bigger issue?

Up into half way through the 3rd Quarter we were in the game. What killed our confidence was not taking our chances. In that 3rd Quarter we kicked 2.6 and they kicked 6.3.

Lack of finishing skill was the issue in that quarter where in open play we were OK.

1. Jones misses a set shot he should have kicked
2. Jones misses an easy chance from 15m
3. Jones misses another easy chance from 15m
4. Dickson misses an easy set shot
5. Higgins plays on to have a shot outside 50m, changes direction to the left foot and butchers it. West Coast mark, run and instantly results in Scholfield marking and then converting from outside 50m.

Those misses, with many two goal turn arounds destroyed our confidence and effectively we capitulated after that.

[comrade]

Re: Whats our bigger issue?

This might seem overly simplistic but we lack quality players. We have too many on our list who are average or below average at this level.

Our terrible record with first round draft picks will haunt us for a long time. I count 2 genuinely good picks since 2003 (Cooney & Griffen). Every other pick has either yielded either an average or sub par AFL footballer (wallis and smith are question marks. The former looks destined to be just average)

We're chock full of battlers.

I know it sounds obvious but we need to start drafting well in the first round or we'll be destined to be a 4th - 12th team (or lower).

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Whats our bigger issue?

This might seem overly simplistic but we lack quality players. We have too many on our list who are average or below average at this level.

Our terrible record with first round draft picks will haunt us for a long time. I count 2 genuinely good picks since 2003 (Cooney & Griffen). Every other pick has either yielded either an average or sub par AFL footballer (wallis and smith are question marks. The former looks destined to be just average)

We're chock full of battlers.

I know it sounds obvious but we need to start drafting well in the first round or we'll be destined to be a 4th - 12th team (or lower).

Dahlhaus is not good? Smith is not good? If Jones had jagged those easy ones, you would be singing his praises. He did everything but slot the friggin thing.

[Eastdog]

Re: Whats our bigger issue?

Dahlhaus is not good? Smith is not good? If Jones had jagged those easy ones, you would be singing his praises. He did everything but slot the friggin thing.

While definitely agree that there are some players not good enough there are one that are very good as well such as Boyd, Cross, Picken, Griffen and in the future Dahlhaus and Smith. Jones is a very good mark but he reminds me a bit like a Travis Cloke although his kicking hasnt been the worst as of late.

[comrade]

Re: Whats our bigger issue?

Dahlhaus is not good? Smith is not good? If Jones had jagged those easy ones, you would be singing his praises. He did everything but slot the friggin thing.

I'm talking about our multitude of first round picks that just haven't produced. No club gets it right every time but our track record is just about the worst in the league. It's where you pick up the real cream. When you miss out year on year, you end up with a team of grunters, which is exactly what we are.

I never said those players weren't good (though it's still very early days for Smith) and I'm not saying we have NO good players. We just don't have enough.

[GVGjr]

Re: Whats our bigger issue?

How did you get that

Dahlhaus is not good? Smith is not good? If Jones had jagged those easy ones, you would be singing his praises. He did everything but slot the friggin thing.

From that?

This might seem overly simplistic but we lack quality players. We have too many on our list who are average or below average at this level.

Our terrible record with first round draft picks will haunt us for a long time. I count 2 genuinely good picks since 2003 (Cooney & Griffen). Every other pick has either yielded either an average or sub par AFL footballer (wallis and smith are question marks. The former looks destined to be just average)

We're chock full of battlers.

I know it sounds obvious but we need to start drafting well in the first round or we'll be destined to be a 4th - 12th team (or lower).

I think the point Comrade is making is around the quality of some of our first round draft picks like Cordy, Howard, Wallis, Williams and Higgins etc rather than Dahlhaus (rookie promotion) and the first gamer in Smith