Game Day 2012 - R17 Western Bulldogs vs Carlton

[AndrewP6]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R17 Western Bulldogs vs Carlton

We had more embarrassing results under Eade last season & we were not in a rebuilding phase.

Which ones? One at Subi...

[AndrewP6]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R17 Western Bulldogs vs Carlton

Round 1 against Essendon still remains as the most embarrassing result that i have ever witnessed. I was ready for Eade to be sacked or for him to resign after that game.

And we've had about half a dozen that bad (in my view, worse) this year.

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R17 Western Bulldogs vs Carlton

The plan's not coming off, yet we barrel on with it regardless. I think Assistant is the role he's best suited to. Doesn't have what it takes for the main job, IMO.

Do you not think you are being unduly harsh because we lost?
Imagine Tom or Grant slotted their goals, Higgins stayed on the park, and likely we would have won. It was a close game and we had more youth than them. Only logical we would tire a bit.
Sure, the coach might have made a few better decisions. But it's just one part of a bigger picture and can't see how the loss can be hung around his neck in total.

The Murphy on Betts decision was a disappointment for me and was always going to end in tears.

[AndrewP6]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R17 Western Bulldogs vs Carlton

Do you not think you are being unduly harsh because we lost?
Imagine Tom or Grant slotted their goals, Higgins stayed on the park, and likely we would have won. It was a close game and we had more youth than them. Only logical we would tire a bit

No I don't.

Just imagine....

Fact remains, they didn't, and we lost. Sure we had our share of young 'uns, but they had half a team of changes, three blokes in their first game, no quality ruck and one of the league's best mids all on the sidelines. They played a glorified magoos team, and we couldn't seal the deal. As far as the coach goes, I'm not stuck just on last night's game. I haven't seen anything thus far that tells me he was the right choice. I have no idea what his 'bigger picture' involves, and I can't see improvement on the whole.

[Nuggety Back Pocket]

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Paulv I like your analysis but the six players you refer to are only average footballers. It is a fallacy to recruit players who have struggled elsewhere. We are simply playing guys like you refer to who do not measure up. We are left to rely on the same few players like Boyd Griffen Cross Lake Dahlhaus Picken and Murphy plus improvement from Liberatore and Wallis. We simply do not have the depth of talent at the moment. It is too easy to be critical of BMcC without looking at the current list he has at his disposal.

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R17 Western Bulldogs vs Carlton

No I don't.

Just imagine....

Fact remains, they didn't, and we lost. Sure we had our share of young 'uns, but they had half a team of changes, three blokes in their first game, no quality ruck and one of the league's best mids all on the sidelines. They played a glorified magoos team, and we couldn't seal the deal.

It's easy to be emotional after a loss. But the fact is it was a two goal loss. Missed a few set shots. Few set up errors. Glance off the post. Young team. We are at where we are at.

[AndrewP6]

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It's easy to be emotional after a loss. But the fact is it was a two goal loss. Missed a few set shots. Few set up errors. Glance off the post. Young team. We are at where we are at.

And all too easy when they come thick and fast, week in, week out. Believe me, I was pulling for a win last night. Posters were saying we'd blown it, I actually thought we could steal a win.

[anfo27]

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And we've had about half a dozen that bad (in my view, worse) this year.

Hell of difference when you have an experience finals outfit getting embarrassed than a team choc full of kids getting smashed don't you think?

[Eastdog]

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And all too easy when they come thick and fast, week in, week out. Believe me, I was pulling for a win last night. Posters were saying we'd blown it, I actually thought we could steal a win.

Definitely if we were going to win it was last night and a quality team wouldn't let them back in like that. St Kilda arent going great guns either. Do you think we are any chance next week or is that it in terms of where another win for the season will come.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R17 Western Bulldogs vs Carlton

It's easy to be emotional after a loss. But the fact is it was a two goal loss. Missed a few set shots. Few set up errors. Glance off the post. Young team. We are at where we are at.

Fact 3 goals.
They had 6 more errors.
With 3 debutants, very much doubt they were older or more experienced.

[AndrewP6]

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Definitely if we were going to win it was last night and a quality team wouldn't let them back in like that. St Kilda arent going great guns either. Do you think we are any chance next week or is that it in terms of where another win for the season will come.

Can't see another win in 2012.

[Eastdog]

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Fact 3 goals.
They had 6 more errors.
With 3 debutants, very much doubt they were older or more experienced.

It was I guess you can say a "better" performance last night against Carlton than the previous 2 weeks which were shocking.

[AndrewP6]

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Hell of difference when you have an experience finals outfit getting embarrassed than a team choc full of kids getting smashed don't you think?

Chock full of kids? Gia, Cross, Higgins, Murphy, Lake, Minson, Picken, Griffen, Gilbee, Veszpremi... sure we have kids, but we had kids last year too.

[LostDoggy]

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It was I guess you can say a better performance last night against Carlton than the previous 2 weeks which were shocking.

Difficult to judge.
We lost to a close to full strength top 4 side last week and away in WA.
Last night was at home to severely undermanned Carlton.

[GVGjr]

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So who do we blame? Someone is responsible for the crap footy we are playing and the terrible state our list is in... Give me some answers.

I get where you are coming from but we were pretty bad last year and I never read the same level of frustration from you as you are now sharing.
The signs were all there last year mind you but we were all kidding ourselves if we thought a new coach was going to get us back on track in one season. He inherited a train wreck and was never going to fix it in one season.

Eade took a number of short term fixes and given 3 top four finishes it had some merit but the last two seasons I think we over achieved but not in a good way for the longer term.

Perhaps you should tell the bloke who runs this site... He's the one who pushed the discussion to where it got.

Don't forget the guy who asked the question to start with