Starting to get worried about our coach

[Maddog37]

Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

Way, way higher.

With the quality of our midfield, we should have won a lot more games. The complete lack of performance/development/call it what you will by Jones and Grant has cost us big time.

It is out of ourselves and the Blues for most disappointing side of the year. Daylight is 3rd.

Gold Coast and Melbourne have not really set the world on fire.

[Maddog37]

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All this talk of coaching issues really needs to be taken with a grain of salt as it is simply too early to tell.

If we are still playing this way at the same time next year then make changes but surely he needs more time.

[LostDoggy]

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I'm confused... what threads am I to pay attention to? The ones that scream how terrible our list is, or the ones screaming to sack the coach. Give the man time to build his list.

[chef]

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Perhaps, just maybe, B-Mac has a plan that stretches beyond 1 year?

You would hope so.

[Missing-Dog]

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We need to refer to McCartney by his real title. It's not coach it's 'Our taskmaster'. Just ask the cheersquad.

I wouldnt ask the cheer squad anything they need to come up with a new chant that actually sounds good!

Bulldogs *clap clap clap*

seriously, is that all we have...

Lets give the coach time to build his list and see what happens.. If it was up to the cheersquad and fans the coach would get sacked every year we didnt make top 4, and Lake wouldve been traded out last year for having a shocking year.. God im glad we didnt :s

Think the coach will make some significant changes at the end of the year. Lets jsut wait and see

[Bornadog]

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I'm confused... what threads am I to pay attention to? The ones that scream how terrible our list is, or the ones screaming to sack the coach. Give the man time to build his list.

I don't believe anyone wants the coach sacked at this early stage. The worrying things that most are concerned about are the selections each week and game plans.

[The Pie Man]

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Quite a few Geelong players are of the same view and struggled to see how MaCartney would make the transition as they didn't think he would be suited to the top job.

I take it this is something you've heard on the grapevine (can't imagine former players speaking like that of a current senior coach in the media)

It sounds right though - it's certainly my opinion based on how we're playing (not just results)

Really undecided as to how he's handled Grant to date - but his return on Saturday was promising. If you can call that a positive, they're the kind of things that maybe he's suited to; helping certain players individually, but lacks the bigger picture structurally.

In short, a good assistant.

[anfo27]

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I don't believe anyone wants the coach sacked at this early stage. The worrying things that most are concerned about are the selections each week and game plans.

I did read in the game day thread that 2 posters asked for macca to be sacked.

[G-Mo77]

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I did read in the game day thread that 2 posters asked for macca to be sacked.

Sad isn't it.

Honorable losses to Collingwood and Geelong and the North win raised unrealistic expectations, including my own. Some posters thought we'd be contending for finals before the season started. Again very unrealsitc after 9 very overrated wins the year before. Those are the ones that are venting a lot about it which is understandable and I do have concerns of my own that match their concerns.

Macca needs more than 3/4 of a season to prove what he can do.

[Mantis]

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Sad isn't it.

Honorable losses to Collingwood and Geelong and the North win raised unrealistic expectations, including my own. Some posters thought we'd be contending for finals before the season started. Again very unrealsitc after 9 very overrated wins the year before. Those are the ones that are venting a lot about it which is understandable and I do have concerns of my own that match their concerns.

Macca needs more than 3/4 of a season to prove what he can do.

I had us finishing around 14th so I'm not surprised by the W/L common.

What is concerning is the lack of progress we are making, but perhaps as you suggest it's going to take some time, but even some indicators that we are treading on the right path would be nice.

[G-Mo77]

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I had us finishing around 14th so I'm not surprised by the W/L common.

What is concerning is the lack of progress we are making, but perhaps as you suggest it's going to take some time, but even some indicators that we are treading on the right path would be nice.

I had us down for 14th as well.

No we haven't progressed at all. I go back to those Collingwood and Geelong games and expected to win those as the season went on and the players not only developed but gelled a little more. Both those games should have been great learning experiences for everyone involved. Saturday against a lesser opponent it was the same story.

We're back a hell of a lot further than I than I thought and my expectations were very low. I'm honestly not expecting much improvement at all next year either.

[Dry Rot]

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We're back a hell of a lot further than I than I thought and my expectations were very low. I'm honestly not expecting much improvement at all next year either.

Agreed. And there's a good chance we'll get worse in 2013 and 2014 before improving in 2015. IMO we'll cop a wooden spoon.

Re judging Macca now, our woeful list really clouds the situation.

[Bulldog4life]

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Quite a few Geelong players are of the same view and struggled to see how MaCartney would make the transition as they didn't think he would be suited to the top job.

Mantis you always like to have posters back up their statements but you are not doing that yourself.You have made a sweeping statement and Ghost Dog has asked you which players and I am joining him. Please name them.

[Maddog37]

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On the other hand players like Ling, Harley and Mooney have all stated publicly he will be a very good senior coach. Also Bomber and other Essendon staff have suggested the same.

[Dancin' Douggy]

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Before the season started I had us pencilled in 13th/14th. maybe only above Brisbane and the 2 new teams.

This was based on our playing list for the following reasons.

1. The guts torn out of it by losing Harbrow, Ward and Cooney.
There goes a lot of pace and sparkle and inspiration and almost wipes out that age bracket in 3 fell swoops.

2. No reliable forward. Zero. We have to scrape a forward line together and hope Gia and Higgins can somehow scratch a few goals together. With long bombs landing on their heads whilst surrounded by tall defenders.

3. Our midfield may be tough but it's slow and can't kick with the precision required to hit a leading forward. I was just appalled when we drafted Clay Smith. ( of course I'll embrace him now that he's a Bulldog but it just seemed a crazy decision)

The only thing Macca had any control over out of this was drafting Smith, which I disagreed with.
But the stage was already set for a shocking season due to years of bad list management.

I'm not gonna bag Macca as a coach yet, but if he drafts more 'in and under' types who 'crack in', I will start cracking it.