Match Committee- Round 4 vs Adelaide

[Rocco Jones]

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I know I bang on about it but Tom Campbell today showed the massive difference between the 1st and 2nd ruck roles. He just looked terrible up forward and as a 2nd ruck you need to spend twice as much there as you do in the ruck. I would just about have Daniel Cross ahead of Campell as a 2nd ruck (not kidding, role has changed that much IMO).

I don't want to beat on Gia and Higgins but what do they offer us? It seems like they have good attidues off the field but on it they are poor leaders on it. I get they are limited players and have to rely on their smarts to steal goals or set them up but as a by product they are modelling unhealty qualities when it comes to our players development.

[Rocco Jones]

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2nd tall/ruck back-up spot not nailed down yet, but Campbell is behind Williams & Cordy IMO

Campbell is simply not a 2nd ruck. I'd rather Cross or Markovic in the role.

[Hotdog60]

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Just to throw it out there but I thought Tutt had a reasonable game against Coburg could he help with some outside run.

[azabob]

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IN
Cordy
Boyd
Macrea
JJ
Veszpremi

OUT

Minson
Dickson
Gia
Wood
Smith

Minson's biggest asset is his aggression and competitiveness. The last couple of weeks he hasn't appeared to compete or unable to influence the contest.

[Ghost Dog]

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Just to throw it out there but I thought Tutt had a reasonable game against Coburg could he help with some outside run.

Yeah I agree. Tutt for Higgins?

[Ghost Dog]

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I know I bang on about it but Tom Campbell today showed the massive difference between the 1st and 2nd ruck roles. He just looked terrible up forward and as a 2nd ruck you need to spend twice as much there as you do in the ruck. I would just about have Daniel Cross ahead of Campell as a 2nd ruck (not kidding, role has changed that much IMO).

I don't want to beat on Gia and Higgins but what do they offer us? It seems like they have good attidues off the field but on it they are poor leaders on it. I get they are limited players and have to rely on their smarts to steal goals or set them up but as a by product they are modelling unhealty qualities when it comes to our players development.

Dixon? What's your take on him.

[Mofra]

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Campbell is simply not a 2nd ruck. I'd rather Cross or Markovic in the role.

I agree, but it seems the development coaches are adamant in getting him to rest forward though (happened at Willy when I saw it too).

It's the same scenario as playing Will & Huddo in the same team, except that was in the 4 on the bench days and now it robs us of even more run if either need to sit on the pine.

[LostDoggy]

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IN
Cordy
Boyd
Macrea
JJ
Veszpremi

OUT

Minson
Dickson
Gia
Wood
Smith

Minson's biggest asset is his aggression and competitiveness. The last couple of weeks he hasn't appeared to compete or unable to influence the contest.

I had him 2nd best last week and a standout B.O.G the 1st week. You are kidding you would rather have Campbell than Minson?

[Mofra]

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Minson's biggest asset is his aggression and competitiveness. The last couple of weeks he hasn't appeared to compete or unable to influence the contest.

Seriously? I thought he was one of the few who could at least hold his head high on a cumulative 2 week basis. 80 hit outs in two weeks is no easy matter.

[Rocco Jones]

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I don't disagree, but what kinds of behaviors do you mean?

'Cheating' to get disposals, goals, goal assists etc. If it was just one of them and we were in a gun side, it would be OK, however it is counter productive to a developing side.

I really don't want to beat on them because I often cringe at the abuse they get from our fans at games but what do they offer us?

Today, the trio of Higgins, Gia and Dickson offered a grand total of 27 disposals, 10 marks, 4 tackles, 1 goal and 1 behind. Is their output really much different to Josh Hill when he was 'struggling' at us?

[Rocco Jones]

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Minson's biggest asset is his aggression and competitiveness. The last couple of weeks he hasn't appeared to compete or unable to influence the contest.

We got 99 problems but Will ain't one.

[Bornadog]

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Seriously? I thought he was one of the few who could at least hold his head high on a cumulative 2 week basis. 80 hit outs in two weeks is no easy matter.

Not good enough according to some

Our biggest issue today was the midfield. Delidio Cotchin and Martin killed us.

In Boyd, Cordy, Grant, jj

Out Campbell, Dickson, Wood, Higgins

[Nuggety Back Pocket]

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In- Boyd, JJ, Macrae, Cordy, Veszpremi

Out- Wood, Dickson, Campbell, Higgins, Smith

Wood should never have played and should be made to wait a very very long time to prove he has something to offer. Cordy is average but is more suited to paying second ruck. Dickson has struggled to have an impact. Leave Higgins out until we play Melbourne and he can show off his "class", Smith to go out for Boyd.

Veszpremi doesn't inspire much confidence as a senior player and to me given our limited attack why wouldn't you be tempted to play Stringer?
Campbell clearly looked out of his depth today. Gia like Higgins doesn't deserve to be in the team and may well have stayed on too long. Our lack of pace is a major concern and therefore players like JJ and Tutt should come under consideration. We need to react more quickly to players being tagged out of the game such as Griffen last week and Liberatore today. We have sadly lacked Boyd's leadership in the past two weeks and his presence with so many new players is vital.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

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Macrae deserves his debut and he's also the type of player we lack, so I would assume he's an automatic inclusion.

Cordy for Campbell is logical, as I think Williams needs at least another week or two.

I'd love to see Stringer play but echo the statements on his fitness levels. Needs more time, we should be patient and not reactive with this situation.

I would look at getting Vez in the side and probably Grant too, based on their performances. I didn't see today's game so I'll go off what I've read.

IN: Macrae, Cordy, Veszremi, Grant
OUT: Smith, Campbell, Higgins, Dickson

JJ is a chance if we feel we need a defender.

[LostDoggy]

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Lets be honest. Gia and Higgins are never going to be both dropped. Unlikely either would get dropped anyway unless injured, no matter what we rightly believe.

Boyd for Smith
Cordy for Campbell
Vezpremi for Dickson
JJ for Wood