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  • SlimPickens
    Coaching Staff
    • Aug 2010
    • 2929

    #391
    Re: 2018 Draft Watch

    Originally posted by kruder
    I was thinking the same re Hatley. He could become a very good player but we have his typed covered already. We need x factor, we need to take a risk I'm still hopeful Rozee has a solid end to the year and he tests well also. His type is exactly what we need.
    Who do you think he is similar to on our list?
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    • Mofra
      Hall of Fame
      • Dec 2006
      • 15116

      #392
      Re: 2018 Draft Watch

      Originally posted by kruder
      I was thinking the same re Hatley. He could become a very good player but we have his typed covered already. We need x factor, we need to take a risk I'm still hopeful Rozee has a solid end to the year and he tests well also. His type is exactly what we need.
      I don't mind Hately but right now it's production vs ceiling.
      The Rozee, Curtis Taylor types are riskier but offer a higher reward. I love the way Rozee moves and I have been very impressed with Taylor based on what I've seen.

      If O'Halloran can learn to find a little more of the ball as the season wears on I wouldn't complain if he shapes up as being in the frame for our pick too, his kicking to leading forwards was sublime and it's a significant area of weakness for us.
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      • Bornadog
        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
        • Jan 2007
        • 67703

        #393
        Re: 2018 Draft Watch

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        • bulldogsthru&thru
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • May 2011
          • 8049

          #394
          Re: 2018 Draft Watch

          They’re going to have to give up A LOT to get the number one pick of Carlton. It won’t happen. Their best bet is to get pick two from Gold Coast who would value some experience

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          • Bornadog
            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
            • Jan 2007
            • 67703

            #395
            Re: 2018 Draft Watch

            Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
            They’re going to have to give up A LOT to get the number one pick of Carlton. It won’t happen. Their best bet is to get pick two from Gold Coast who would value some experience
            Carlton stated today they need some players in the 25 to 27 bracket, so who knows what they may do. Would be crazy to give up pick 1
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            • FrediKanoute
              Coaching Staff
              • Aug 2007
              • 3892

              #396
              Re: 2018 Draft Watch

              What about Adeliade's 13 & 19 for pick 5. They could then look to package 8 & 5 to get a top 3 pick. We get 2 picks in the first round and use one on West and the other on the best available

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              • macca
                Coaching Staff
                • Sep 2007
                • 2391

                #397
                Re: 2018 Draft Watch

                Originally posted by FrediKanoute
                What about Adeliade's 13 & 19 for pick 5. They could then look to package 8 & 5 to get a top 3 pick. We get 2 picks in the first round and use one on West and the other on the best available
                good idea.

                We could ontrade pick 19 for a future pick first round 1 pick with Carlton and use pick 41 to get West.

                Not sure on the impact of points side.

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                • GVGjr
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 45571

                  #398
                  Re: 2018 Draft Watch

                  Originally posted by FrediKanoute
                  What about Adeliade's 13 & 19 for pick 5. They could then look to package 8 & 5 to get a top 3 pick. We get 2 picks in the first round and use one on West and the other on the best available
                  This is a bit more list management than draft watch but using the draft value index points as a guide, in the first instance Adelaide would be giving up 2160 points value for 1878 points in return with us and then 3429 points for 2234 for pick 3.
                  Picks 5 and 8 would be better to be in the mix for pick 1 which is valued at 3,000 points.

                  Without using another side, Adelaide's picks 8, 13 and 19 have a value of 3711 points and Carlton might be interested in that for pick one (3,000 points) and maybe something else going back to Adelaide. The Blues would going into the draft having picks 8, 13, 19, 23 and 26. 2 early picks in both round 1 and 3 in round 2 which is a strong hand but I think if Carlton are willing to trade pick one it will be with GWS (of course) for a senior player and something else.
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                  • Happy Days
                    Hall of Fame
                    • May 2008
                    • 10246

                    #399
                    Re: 2018 Draft Watch

                    If it's a choice between Pick 5 and West we surely take the pick 5.

                    And if we trade out of a top draft pick for 2 picks again I'll pull my hair out.
                    - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                    • The Adelaide Connection
                      Coaching Staff
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 2844

                      #400
                      Re: 2018 Draft Watch

                      More than any time in recent memory, I am going to be rooting hard for everyone in the lower half of the ladder. I don't like the idea of losing every game and am hoping we can win fourish in the run home but still manage to drop a place or two on the ladder (C'mon Saints, Brisbane, and Freo!).

                      Unfortunately I can't see Freo holding their spot. I am hopeful (and expect) that Brisbane will come home with a wet sail and take over us though. The "8 pointer" game we have against the Saints might well determine if they jump us.

                      For the record, here is the current points and percentage with the run home:
                      11, Adelaide 34, 97.4%: Geelong (H), Brisbane, Melbourne (H), Port (H), GWS, NM (H), Carlton
                      12, Essendon 28, 94.2%: GC, Freo (H), Sydney (H), Hawks, Saints (H), Richmond, Port
                      13, Freo: 24, 82.4%: Port (H), Essendon, Hawks (H), WC, Carlton, Geelong, Pies (H)
                      14, Dogs: 20, 74.3%: Melbourne, WC, Port (H), Saints, NM, Carlton, Richmond
                      15, Saints: 14, 72.6%: Carlton (H), Richmond (H), GWS, Dogs (H), Essendon, Hawks (H), NM (H)
                      16, Brisbane: 12, 88.9%: Hawks, Adelaide (H), Geelong, NM (H), Pies, GC, WC (H)
                      17, GC: 12, 62.7%: Essendon (H), Sydney, Carlton (H), Melbourne, Richomnd (H), Brisbane (H), Geelong

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                      • bulldogtragic
                        The List Manager
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 34289

                        #401
                        Re: 2018 Draft Watch

                        Originally posted by Happy Days
                        If it's a choice between Pick 5 and West we surely take the pick 5.

                        And if we trade out of a top draft pick for 2 picks again I'll pull my hair out.
                        It's not the choice as I see it. It's keep pick 5 unless we get a stupid good offer. The choice we have is letting Dahl & Roughy leave for enough draft points in compo to secure West & Khamis. I'm happy to thank the two men, and bring in two 'starting 18' All Australian U/18 players for them (with pick 5 being a third starting 18 AA U/18 -- 3 of arguably the best 18 players in the draft is a huge outcome for a club rebuilding its talent and list).
                        Last edited by bulldogtragic; 12-07-2018, 01:50 PM.
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                        • Mofra
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 15116

                          #402
                          Re: 2018 Draft Watch

                          Originally posted by The Adelaide Connection
                          More than any time in recent memory, I am going to be rooting hard for everyone in the lower half of the ladder. I don't like the idea of losing every game and am hoping we can win fourish in the run home but still manage to drop a place or two on the ladder (C'mon Saints, Brisbane, and Freo!).
                          I think we'll end up with the same number of points as Freo but will finish below them due to our percentage.

                          I have us beating Saints & Carlton, and Freo beating Carlton only.
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                          • Bornadog
                            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 67703

                            #403
                            Re: 2018 Draft Watch

                            Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                            It's not the choice as I see it. It's keep pick 5 unless we get a stupid good offer. The choice we have is letting Dahl & Roughy leave for enough draft points in compo to secure West & Khamis. I'm happy to thank the two men, and bring in two All Australian U/18 players for them (with pick 5 being a third AA U/18).
                            Doesn't have to be Dahl and Roughy, could be other players, or go into negative draft points. Time will tell.
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                            • bulldogsthru&thru
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • May 2011
                              • 8049

                              #404
                              Re: 2018 Draft Watch

                              Originally posted by The Adelaide Connection
                              More than any time in recent memory, I am going to be rooting hard for everyone in the lower half of the ladder. I don't like the idea of losing every game and am hoping we can win fourish in the run home but still manage to drop a place or two on the ladder (C'mon Saints, Brisbane, and Freo!).

                              Unfortunately I can't see Freo holding their spot. I am hopeful (and expect) that Brisbane will come home with a wet sail and take over us though. The "8 pointer" game we have against the Saints might well determine if they jump us.

                              For the record, here is the current points and percentage with the run home:
                              11, Adelaide 34, 97.4%: Geelong (H), Brisbane, Melbourne (H), Port (H), GWS, NM (H), Carlton
                              12, Essendon 28, 94.2%: GC, Freo (H), Sydney (H), Hawks, Saints (H), Richmond, Port
                              13, Freo: 24, 82.4%: Port (H), Essendon, Hawks (H), WC, Carlton, Geelong, Pies (H)
                              14, Dogs: 20, 74.3%: Melbourne, WC, Port (H), Saints, NM, Carlton, Richmond
                              15, Saints: 14, 72.6%: Carlton (H), Richmond (H), GWS, Dogs (H), Essendon, Hawks (H), NM (H)
                              16, Brisbane: 12, 88.9%: Hawks, Adelaide (H), Geelong, NM (H), Pies, GC, WC (H)
                              17, GC: 12, 62.7%: Essendon (H), Sydney, Carlton (H), Melbourne, Richomnd (H), Brisbane (H), Geelong
                              Freo should beat Carlton which will keep them ahead of us on % if we end up beating Carlton and Saints.

                              For me, to finish one position lower, the saints will have to beat us and then knock off another team, most likely in North or Essendon. But after their tanking efforts last year against Richmond to finish below us i can't see them being so obliging. Doesn't bother me too much. I'd like us to keep a winning spirit. We'll still grab someone great with pick 5 or 6. We usually have a good history of picking a better player straight after the saints anyway

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                              • The Doctor
                                Coaching Staff
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 3712

                                #405
                                Re: 2018 Draft Watch

                                Originally posted by FrediKanoute
                                What about Adeliade's 13 & 19 for pick 5. They could then look to package 8 & 5 to get a top 3 pick. We get 2 picks in the first round and use one on West and the other on the best available
                                noooooooo
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