Mid Season Draft - 2021

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Mid Season Draft - 2021

Wednesday Night at 7pm

Going to sit second last in the natural order.

Losing $300,000 Bain’s might be concerned about the $50,000 of every player on a 6 month contract. We could have up to 3-4 picks for us to consider using (Dunks, AT, Jong & perhaps VDM have more than 6 weeks injury left).

Questions:

How many picks should we use?
What types of players? Mature ready to go, or highly talented youth to bank them away?
What positions should they play?
Do we look at former AFEL Players?
Do we look to a Footscray player who would be advanced in our systems? (Ie Gardner)
Any names want to specify?

[Bornadog]

Re: Mid Season Draft - 2021

Wednesday Night at 7pm

Going to sit second last in the natural order.

Losing $300,000 Bain’s might be concerned about the $50,000 of every player on a 6 month contract. We could have up to 3-4 picks for us to consider using (Dunks, AT, Jong & perhaps VDM have more than 6 weeks injury left).

Questions:

How many picks should we use?
What types of players? Mature ready to go, or highly talented youth to bank them away?
What positions should they play?
Do we look at former AFEL Players?
Do we look to a Footscray player who would be advanced in our systems? (Ie Gardner)
Any names want to specify?

I am thinking rucks may still be a problem? If Martin goes down again, and we know Sweet isn't ready, English is more a forward/Ruck, then we should look at another mature ruck.

Do we also look at a KPD as insurance?

[Happy Days]

Re: Mid Season Draft - 2021

I thought we don't have room for a pick?

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Mid Season Draft - 2021

I thought we don't have room for a pick?

The way I read the AFEL update was that if a player has 6+ rounds of injury left, clubs can use a MSD pick on that player (no longer LTI). Id guess the rookie then becomes inactive unless there’s a spot. Like the way Cat B used to operate.

[Bornadog]

Re: Mid Season Draft - 2021

BT answered.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Mid Season Draft - 2021

Clubs have until 5pm tomorrow to tell the AFEL about changes that impact their participation or not in the MSD.

[comrade]

Re: Mid Season Draft - 2021

Clubs have until 5pm tomorrow to tell the AFEL about changes that impact their participation or not in the MSD.

Every article regarding the MSD says we don't currently have a pick, so we obviously haven't made the call yet to list players on the LTI (if that is the correct interpretation of the rule).

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Mid Season Draft - 2021

Every article regarding the MSD says we don't currently have a pick, so we obviously haven't made the call yet to list players on the LTI (if that is the correct interpretation of the rule).

That’s my assumption too. I imagine Power, Grant & Bains are sitting down today to make a decision about if it’s something we want to do from a list or financial perspective. Then notify the AFEL before cut off tomorrow at 5pm if we do want in.

It’s not a mandatory draft, so I would think with a full list (less injuries) we’d be making any call until late.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Mid Season Draft - 2021

see rule here for LTI list

BAD posted the rule.

So if Jong, VDM, Dunkley or AT just need to miss this week, the bye and four games after the bye. Safe bet, except VDM.

Reading Geelong is also waiting until late today or tomorrow to make a call on participating too. There might be a late rush of picks if the clubs have injuries and spare cash.

[Axe Man]

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I would be very surprised if we participate. We didn't take Raak as a free hit last year which I can only assume was a financial decision, so I can't see that policy changing.

I also don't see us bringing in anyone that would be likely to play this season. The only reason I think we would be tempted would be to grab someone we fancy but are unlikely to be able to access in the national draft.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Mid Season Draft - 2021

I would be very surprised if we participate. We didn't take Raak as a free hit last year which I can only assume was a financial decision, so I can't see that policy changing.

I also don't see us bringing in anyone that would be likely to play this season. The only reason I think we would be tempted would be to grab someone we fancy but are unlikely to be able to access in the national draft.

On Raak I tend to agree, so the reasoning of your post is absolutely solid.

The slip side... we have right now four players with 6+ weeks on their injury. That means we have potentially four picks. The estimated cost is $50,000 each for 6 months each. Up to $200,000. If we could cover the cost, we could go and grab four of the best players we can find. Say by the end of the year only 2 are clearly worth pursuing, we’ve upped the overall talent on the list and could go about a slim ND just getting Darcy and maybe one draftee, upgrade Sweet & Khamis after trading as required.

I don’t think we do this, but the cluster of 6+ week injuries this very week and recent rule changes have opened up a ‘stars aligning’ potential opportunity for us to go and grab multiple players we like for free now (no national draft picks used) with just a 6 month commitment. But I suspect Bains isn’t going to part with $50,000-$200,000 on speculative players.

[GVGjr]

Re: Mid Season Draft - 2021

I would be very surprised if we participate. We didn't take Raak as a free hit last year which I can only assume was a financial decision, so I can't see that policy changing.

I also don't see us bringing in anyone that would be likely to play this season. The only reason I think we would be tempted would be to grab someone we fancy but are unlikely to be able to access in the national draft.

Drafting Raak in the mid season does nothing for us this year so if we were to make a move we would be looking for a midfielder or a versatile key position player with experience.

[divvydan]

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I'm not convinced that the 6 match/6 week rule that applies to elevate Category B rookies applies for drafting players from the midseason draft. The initial midseason draft rule back in 2019 said:

- If an inactive, injured player is fit to play before the season ends, a club can apply to return that player to the primary list in place of another long-term injured player

https://www.afl.com.au/news/119794/mid-season-draft-rules-clubs-allowed-to-test-up-to-three-players

[bulldogtragic]

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I thought I’d hit the goverance rules for clarity, and this is all that’s in 197 pages of/from the AFEL:

Mid-Season Draft
6.7
The AFL may determine in its absolute discretion to hold a mid-AFL Season Draft and may impement such processes and procesdures as it sees fit to govern such Draft


The Microsoft ‘paper clip’ would’ve offered me more help. And spell check wasn’t done by them either. All this says is they can make it up as they go. No wonder clubs are holding back decisions until deadline Tuesday 5pm.

[bulldogtragic]

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I'm not convinced that the 6 match/6 week rule that applies to elevate Category B rookies applies for drafting players from the midseason draft. The initial midseason draft rule back in 2019 said:



https://www.afl.com.au/news/119794/m...-three-players

The latest article from afel.com.au makes no reference to 6 weeks. Essentially reiterating the original rule you sighted that a player moves to the inactive list and is replaced, but can come back if there’s another LTI. Essendon & Brisbane have done that tonight, Geelong weighing it up as well. In this light, there’s only really Jong or VDM and I doubt we’d force them against his wishes.