2024 Draft Watch

[GVGjr]

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Conditions aren't great at Ikon park but there are a number of quality players on display today. Scrappy game so far

[Grantysghost]

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Conditions aren't great at Ikon park but there are a number of quality players on display today. Scrappy game so far

Who do gold Coast look like getting with our pick?

[GVGjr]

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Who do gold Coast look like getting with our pick?

Not sure in that but like his brother, Ashcrofts name will be called early on draft day.

[Mofra]

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The Camporeale hype is real. Genuine Rozee vibes from Lucas

[Mofra]

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Crows just have to get Sid Draper. Seems to have everything they could want from their first pick

[Bornadog]

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From Sam Edmund:

* The AFL has told clubs it will next week brief them on the latest when when it comes to long-mooted draft changes - points index, father-son and academies. Clubs will be divided into groups of six for talks on where things sit & perhaps what will change this year.

* The most common school of thought amid all the speculation is the top 20 picks will increase in value and picks beyond 40 won't have any points attached, but all subject to confirmation.

How dare the AFL introduce the changes this year, when clubs have tried to build pics and points for this years draft.

[bulldogtragic]

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From Sam Edmund:

* The AFL has told clubs it will next week brief them on the latest when when it comes to long-mooted draft changes - points index, father-son and academies. Clubs will be divided into groups of six for talks on where things sit & perhaps what will change this year.

* The most common school of thought amid all the speculation is the top 20 picks will increase in value and picks beyond 40 won't have any points attached, but all subject to confirmation.

How dare the AFL introduce the changes this year, when clubs have tried to build pics and points for this years draft.

With Brisbane & Carlton most impacted. I don’t care a bit!

[Bulldog Joe]

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With Brisbane & Carlton most impacted. I don’t care a bit!

I see that as the perfect time to do it.

[Grantysghost]

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From Sam Edmund:

* The AFL has told clubs it will next week brief them on the latest when when it comes to long-mooted draft changes - points index, father-son and academies. Clubs will be divided into groups of six for talks on where things sit & perhaps what will change this year.

* The most common school of thought amid all the speculation is the top 20 picks will increase in value and picks beyond 40 won't have any points attached, but all subject to confirmation.

How dare the AFL introduce the changes this year, when clubs have tried to build pics and points for this years draft.

Picks beyond 40 no points attached is massive. Teams stockpile them to get enough points for academy and f/s bid matching.

Pick 40 is currently 429 points for eg and pick 1 3000.

Carlton would be livid with the Camporeale twins on the radar.

[Sedat]

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With Brisbane & Carlton most impacted. I don’t care a bit!

Yes and no - we are likely to be screwed next time these fools make a drastic policy change on the run in season.

Serious competition governing bodies just don't do that shit, period. Unfortunately the people that run our game are not serious people. So long as there is ample #CoNtEnT and media impressions, the AFEL board members and executives will all get massive bonuses, and they will eventually move on to fail up elsewhere (until they fail up so high they become Governor General)

[bulldogtragic]

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Picks beyond 40 no points attached is massive. Teams stockpile them to get enough points for academy and f/s bid matching.

Pick 40 is currently 429 points for eg and pick 1 3000.

Carlton would be livid with the Camporeale twins on the radar.

Will be interesting if West & Cooney cost a bomb. We might want to get a F2 if we can from say a Daniel/Lobb type. Then try to flip that next year into an F2 so it’s usable in 2026. But I suspect they’ll allow two years of future trading in this suite of changes. Then we could get real creative.

[bulldogtragic]

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Yes and no - we are likely to be screwed next time these fools make a drastic policy change on the run in season.

Serious competition governing bodies just don't do that shit, period. Unfortunately the people that run our game are not serious people. So long as there is ample #CoNtEnT and media impressions, the AFEL board members and executives will all get massive bonuses, and they will eventually move on to fail up elsewhere (until they fail up so high they become Governor General)

True. But it’s pretty lenient at the moment and we’ve benefitted if that. Like when priority picks were in at the top of the draft. We’ve benefitted really well from lax parameters especially with the rules being effectively suspended when we got Marra. But your general point is bang on. No arguments for me. The o let thing more certain is money budgeted for your stadium for stuff they didn’t even ask for…

[Grantysghost]

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Will be interesting if West & Cooney cost a bomb. We might want to get a F2 if we can from say a Daniel/Lobb type. Then try to flip that next year into an F2 so it’s usable in 2026. But I suspect they’ll allow two years of future trading in this suite of changes. Then we could get real creative.

Interesting yes we have some pending F/S don't we. Hmmm. My guess considering it's Caaaaaaarlton they'll probably phase it in over a couple of years.

It would seem pretty unfair to change the rules this dramatically without giving teams time to adjust their plans to suit.

Having said that, it's the AFL and I wouldn't be surprised.

[bulldogtragic]

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Interesting yes we have some pending F/S don't we. Hmmm. My guess considering it's Caaaaaaarlton they'll probably phase it in over a couple of years.

It would seem pretty unfair to change the rules this dramatically without giving teams time to adjust their plans to suit.

Having said that, it's the AFL and I wouldn't be surprised.

Realistically, the only argument is to bring it in after future trading timelines finish. Ie after next year, ready for 2026 with West & Cooney. But they need to make the call before this trade period, or it could really **** us over. So I’d rather us know and deal with it if it’s changing.

If they do it this year while it doesn’t impact us directly, would be a shit decision.

Thinking more on it, it could radically change trading and player values. It could make some deals much harder if say a club needs points and the offer is pick 42 (no points). Take last year we traded pick 40 (which went in after matched bids) to points, in order to two picks in the 50’s to get Coffield done. We wouldn’t do that trade now. Then how do we get Coffield withAints demanding a second rounder in the deal? Maybe we have to move on a player to keep the pick and get another top 40 pick.

I think adjusting the discount could be an easier option. But some clubs might be pissed the way the Suns last year keep rolling picks into later picks to plunder the draft and still wind up with three first rounders this year. But my vote would bringing the discount in to 10% rather than manipulating the value of picks which can affect all clubs where the discount affects the club wanting the player.

[FrediKanoute]

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Just leave the system alone. Yes, Father Son gives clubs a leg up to potential first rate talent, but for every Gazza Jnr or Sam Darcy there are a bunch of Cordy, Fosters and Kellets and in Collingwood's case the Brown Brothers. It's not guaranteed and development pays a big part too.

As for Academy's, the results are predictable. Less indigenous players being drafted as clubs no longer want to put time into guys that they don't get the benefit from. Again for every Isaac Heeney and JUH there are Cody Raak's.