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  • NAUGHTY100
    Rookie List
    • Dec 2024
    • 342

    Originally posted by jazzadogs
    I found this list in some dark corner of the internet, the out of contract players for 2025.

    Adam Treloar: 2025
    Marcus Bontempelli: 2025
    Liam Jones: 2025
    Ed Richards: 2025
    Luke Cleary: 2025
    Arthur Jones: 2025
    Laitham Vandermeer: 2025
    Oskar Baker: 2025 (Rookie)
    Anthony Scott: 2025
    Caleb Poulter: 2025 (Rookie)
    Nick Coffield: 2025
    Lachlan Smith: 2025
    Tom Liberatore: 2025
    Taylor Duryea: 2025 (Rookie)
    Jason Johannisen: 2025

    I suspect that the 6 you have listed - Poulter, Baker, Arty, Duryea, JJ, Coffield - are certainly the least likely on that list.

    Cleary has played himself in to another contract at this stage.
    VDM is best 23, will get signed.
    Smith is developing ruck and has shown improvement this year, we can't afford to let another one of them leave.
    Liam Jones and Libba are likely to get another year each, but I think we are wise to hold off on re-signing them.

    Anthony Scott is the other big question mark for me. A good foot soldier when he could get on the park, he is now an injury/concussion prone 30 year old (would be turning 31 prior to the 2026 season). I think he gets delisted too, unless he can demonstrate some value over the remainder of this year.

    So 3 rookies (Baker, Poulter, Duryea) and 4 primary list (Coffield, Arty, JJ, Scott). If Jamarra requests a trade that takes us up to 8 changes, and might mean that one of Baker, Arty or Scott get another chance.
    jazzadogs i agree , i agree with all you have said there , as far as if Marra requests a trade or we want to trade him i think the club would probably go with the younger guy in Arty and Scott would go , but all in all nice summary of where our list sits.

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    • jazzadogs
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Oct 2008
      • 5457

      Originally posted by NAUGHTY100

      jazzadogs i agree , i agree with all you have said there , as far as if Marra requests a trade or we want to trade him i think the club would probably go with the younger guy in Arty and Scott would go , but all in all nice summary of where our list sits.
      I agree that Arty possibly gets another chance, ahead of Baker and Scott, because of his age, positive traits of speed and pressure, and potential to play as a small forward.

      However I think Baker (27yo next season) and Scott are better footballers.

      I'd be inclined to keep Baker as safe depth, but would understand us choosing to move him on.

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      • soupman
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Nov 2007
        • 5077

        I like the idea of Jones, but no way should we be re signing him ahead of Baker, who can contribute in multiple roles, is actually good at the sub role, and appears to do everything right off field.

        Scott should be retiring with concussion btw. He's averaging at least 2 a season.
        I should leave it alone but you're not right

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        • Bornadog
          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
          • Jan 2007
          • 65598

          Originally posted by Mitcha
          Early season call.
          JUH traded out, don't care where as long as we are compensated well enough. It's at a stage now where he is better off someone else's problem.
          JJ and Duryea pull the pin.
          Coffield delisted as he never gets on the park and is bog average when he is.
          Poulter is in trouble as we don't seem to have a position for him and I'm not sure if he is actually AFL standard.
          Artie Jones and Baker are just hanging on but at least have some leg speed but really need a good finish to the year as speed alone won't save them.
          We also started the season one short saving a spot open for the mid season draft so assume that will be filled. So all up looks like about 5 or 6 pick without factoring in other trades in or out. Is 5 or 6 about right or too many/too few?
          I agree 5 to 6 every year is about right and can go to ten of things are pretty bad and you want a refresh/rebuild. We had 8 last year and I am happy with the players we brought in.

          If you go say 6, you need to bring in a couple of players from other clubs, unless it is a deep draft.
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          Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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          • jazzadogs
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Oct 2008
            • 5457

            From AFL Trading Places article. It feels like there is something going on with Bont and I don't like it.

            "WESTERN Bulldogs midfielder Ed Richards is expected to be the next big name to wipe his name off the free agency list.

            Richards was one of just five remaining restricted free agents left on the AFL's official free agency list it distributed to clubs on Monday.

            But rival clubs are aware Richards is intent on staying at the Dogs, with Gettable revealing this month that he was in discussions on a five or six-year extension that would see him join 'Club 2030' as the players around the competition signed to at least 2030.

            Richards, Hawthorn's James Worpel, Carlton's Tom De Koning, Brisbane's Brandon Starcevich and West Coast's Oscar Allen are the only remaining restricted free agents in the pool.

            Clubs are watching with fascination on Bulldogs skipper Marcus Bontempelli's contract talks, with discussions not yet progressed.

            The champion Bulldog is set to return from his calf injury this week against St Kilda but has been comfortable holding off his contract talks as an unrestricted free agent."

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            • Mofra
              Hall of Fame
              • Dec 2006
              • 14797

              Bont signed pretty late in the season last contact didn't he? I'm not concerned.
              He and Darcy virtually have an open chequebook.
              Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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              • Axe Man
                Hall of Fame
                • Nov 2008
                • 10874

                Originally posted by Mofra
                Bont signed pretty late in the season last contact didn't he? I'm not concerned.
                He and Darcy virtually have an open chequebook.
                Don't ask me how I know but his current 4 year deal was announced on 25 May 2021. He was always going to want to get back on the field before signing and agree the timing at this stage is normal for him and not a concern.

                My only concern is if he wants certainty on the coach before he signs.

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                • Grantysghost
                  Bouncing Strong
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 18731

                  Originally posted by Axe Man

                  Don't ask me how I know but his current 4 year deal was announced on 25 May 2021. He was always going to want to get back on the field before signing and agree the timing at this stage is normal for him and not a concern.

                  My only concern is if he wants certainty on the coach before he signs.
                  Your memory for these things is insane. Savant levels.
                  BT COME BACK!​

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                  • NAUGHTY100
                    Rookie List
                    • Dec 2024
                    • 342

                    Originally posted by Axe Man

                    Don't ask me how I know but his current 4 year deal was announced on 25 May 2021. He was always going to want to get back on the field before signing and agree the timing at this stage is normal for him and not a concern.

                    My only concern is if he wants certainty on the coach before he signs.
                    Sign them both is all i can say , if Bont left beacuse the club ummed and ahhed about resigning Bevo it would be a tragedy for this club .

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                    • jeemak
                      Bulldog Legend
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 21416

                      Originally posted by jazzadogs
                      From AFL Trading Places article. It feels like there is something going on with Bont and I don't like it.

                      "WESTERN Bulldogs midfielder Ed Richards is expected to be the next big name to wipe his name off the free agency list.

                      Richards was one of just five remaining restricted free agents left on the AFL's official free agency list it distributed to clubs on Monday.

                      But rival clubs are aware Richards is intent on staying at the Dogs, with Gettable revealing this month that he was in discussions on a five or six-year extension that would see him join 'Club 2030' as the players around the competition signed to at least 2030.

                      Richards, Hawthorn's James Worpel, Carlton's Tom De Koning, Brisbane's Brandon Starcevich and West Coast's Oscar Allen are the only remaining restricted free agents in the pool.

                      Clubs are watching with fascination on Bulldogs skipper Marcus Bontempelli's contract talks, with discussions not yet progressed.

                      The champion Bulldog is set to return from his calf injury this week against St Kilda but has been comfortable holding off his contract talks as an unrestricted free agent."
                      Baines said on radio a few weeks ago they'll get to Bont after they do the others, its not unusual for him to focus on his footy in the first half of the season and they're confident he'll get done.

                      Richards getting done brings us closer to that point.
                      TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                      • jeemak
                        Bulldog Legend
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 21416

                        Originally posted by Axe Man

                        Don't ask me how I know but his current 4 year deal was announced on 25 May 2021. He was always going to want to get back on the field before signing and agree the timing at this stage is normal for him and not a concern.

                        My only concern is if he wants certainty on the coach before he signs.
                        Some sort of dark art, I assume. Almost like you're using repositories that couldn't possibly exist!

                        RE the coaching situation, that's also my only worry but whatever will be will be.
                        TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                        • Mofra
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 14797

                          Rod Ali may be one to watch for the mid-season draft. Defender, overager, probably a bit dour which is why he didn't get drafted last year.

                          I do like the idea of drafting a genuine defender who can defend. Nice size so should be able to take mediums and smalls.
                          Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                          • Axe Man
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 10874

                            DASHING DOG MAKES CASE FOR NEXT DEAL

                            Bulldogs dasher Jason Johannisen is happy to be part of the growing one-year club at Whitten Oval as he hopes to stay fit and build a case to play on in 2026.

                            As Rory Lobb eyes an early extension on his deal that still runs until the end of 2026, Johannisen isn’t opposed to going year to year.

                            Johannisen was made to wait in 2024 after another torrid injury run, signing a one-year extension in October.

                            The 32-year-old suffered another serious hamstring injury in January, but has played in the last two games for the Dogs and was back to his best with 25 touches in Sunday’s win over St Kilda.

                            The 2016 Norm Smith medallist is due to play game 199 on Saturday against GWS.

                            Johannisen said he had no plans on slowing down, in his run or his career, and wanted to prove he was worth going around again next season.

                            At Whitten Oval, Tom Liberatore has been on rolling one-year deals of late and defender Taylor Duryea quipped last year he was on his eighth 12-month contract in a row.

                            Liam Jones is keen to play on at age 34 and would likely fall in the same category.

                            “We have a few of us getting older,” Johannisen told this masthead.

                            “That is just part of the system of football clubs and how they roll. I want personally to build continuity with my football and then the club will reward me.”

                            Lobb, 32, only came to football late after taking up the game in his late teenage years.

                            He believes that holds him in good stead to continue playing well beyond his current contract.

                            “I am an ‘extend early’ kind of guy,” Lobb told this masthead, with his current deal to expire at the end of 2026.

                            “Now that I’m a little bit older, it’s a little bit harder to do that, but hopefully I can extend soon.”

                            The Bulldogs is his third club after time at GWS and Fremantle, but he “doesn’t want to go anywhere”.

                            “I’m enjoying my football at this club … hopefully we can work on a bit of an extension. I was drafted a little bit late, so I always say maybe I can play a little bit longer.

                            “I don’t feel like a 32 year old. I honestly feel like I act like I’m 27 half the time or just like all the young boys that are around me, and I feel like you’re only as old as you act.

                            “So the fact that I act like a child half the time when I’m around the football club, I feel like I can play for a long time.

                            “I’ve got a few little side bets with the boys on how long that I’ll play for. I won’t mention the time frames, but there’s some outrageous ones that I’ve thrown out there. And I’ve got a couple of little coffee bets going on. I might have to follow up in a fair few years with a few of the boys if I’m still playing and cash them in.”

                            BONT SET TO STAY BUT NO TALKS YET

                            Marcus Bontempelli still isn’t ready to pick up contract talks with the Western Bulldogs but he certainly won’t be heading to Collingwood or West Coast.

                            The Dogs star has been happy to delay contract talks until he feels the time is right, concentrating on his rehab from a calf injury before his return against St Kilda.

                            There was speculation he had met with the Pies then a report in the West that he might be gettable for the Eagles.

                            But it’s understood he just wanted to concentrate on his rehab before deciding when the time was right to lock himself away at the Dogs long-term.

                            That point hasn’t been reached yet, but he isn’t going anywhere.

                            The Dogs are keen to lock away Ed Richards and talks continue on a deal of up to six years for the brilliant free agent.

                            CEO Ameet Bains said recently of those talks: “(List boss Sam Power and Bontempelli’s manager Tom Petroro) are currently talking about Ed and they will pick up Marcus on the way through. No one internally is concerned about the time frame.

                            “Marcus once the season rolls around concentrates on leading the club and the injury is an added curve ball. Last time it wasn’t done until round eight or nine of the season so from a Dogs perspective both those guys will be playing at the Bulldogs beyond this year.”

                            Vice-captain Tom Liberatore has also been in hot form, with his exceptional run-down chase on Brad Hill leading to standing applause from the Dogs faithful on Sunday night.

                            But he has customarily done his one-year deals midway through the season at the earliest.

                            His creaky knees, age at 32 years old and his concussion history all mean neither party is in a rush.

                            He has joined the stables of Tom Petroro, who is also the manager of Richards and Bontempelli.

                            While many players have recently been medically retired by the AFL after advanced brain scans, Liberatore has recovered well from a series of concussions and had no lasting damage after those scans.

                            So he has been given permission to play on and is in a rich vein of form.

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                            • Before I Die
                              Senior Player
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 1028

                              I think it’s time some well deserved credit is given to the clubs recruiting and list management teams for the recent recycled recruits they have brought in, Kennedy, Harmes and Bramble. Not a lot of love for Harmes and Bramble initially, but I don’t think their bargain basement value can be questioned any longer.
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                              • josie
                                Coaching Staff
                                • Oct 2012
                                • 4336

                                Originally posted by Before I Die
                                I think it’s time some well deserved credit is given to the clubs recruiting and list management teams for the recent recycled recruits they have brought in, Kennedy, Harmes and Bramble. Not a lot of love for Harmes and Bramble initially, but I don’t think their bargain basement value can be questioned any longer.
                                Yep-totally agree. We’ve been terrific in this area recently.
                                Josie :)

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                                And we'll have everything.
                                We'll share the joy
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