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  • jazzadogs
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Oct 2008
    • 5638

    Originally posted by JanLorMill

    0 chance he comes to us and Collingwood players are better for that club more than at other clubs eg Lipinski
    Lipinski isn't better for them, he's just older than when he was with us.

    The 'depth' of our midfield with Bont, Libba and Macrae, then Treloar as well, has meant that we have lost some really good players in Lipinski, Dunkley and Baz because they wanted to be the big dogs. They were all good players with us as well.

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    • jeemak
      Bulldog Legend
      • Oct 2010
      • 21814

      Originally posted by jazzadogs

      Lipinski isn't better for them, he's just older than when he was with us.

      The 'depth' of our midfield with Bont, Libba and Macrae, then Treloar as well, has meant that we have lost some really good players in Lipinski, Dunkley and Baz because they wanted to be the big dogs. They were all good players with us as well.
      I think Lipinski was a bit put off by Beveridge's insistence he work on his pace, even though he was given an offer. The reality is he's found a spot at the Pies that he didn't see with us and more than anything we should be happy for him for doing so.
      TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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      • kickit2Koly
        Rookie List
        • Nov 2023
        • 180

        Originally posted by JanLorMill

        0 chance he comes to us and Collingwood players are better for that club more than at other clubs eg Lipinski
        Agreed, not saying we should try and get him just that he'd be perfect for us and what we lack. For the draft watchers is there anyone similar to him this year?

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        • Axe Man
          Hall of Fame
          • Nov 2008
          • 11150

          Footy’s salary cap explained and which clubs are ready to strike this off-season

          BULLDOGS
          The Dogs stars are all on excellent deals but the Dogs will have saved on players 15-40 on the list given many are role players on modest deals. The Bont is a million dollar man while Tim English and Aaron Naughton are close, Jamarra Ugle-Hagan is on around $800,000 this year and Ed Richards has just signed on again on a big extension. But while Sam Darcy’s four-year extension signed late last year is on excellent money with enough built-in incentives he’s nowhere near his earning peak yet and Ugle-Hagan will be gone next year. They moved on from deals for senior leaders Jackson Macrae (his last two years would have been back-ended) and Caleb Daniel. So even when they sign up Bontempelli again on a small fortune they will have space for a Zac Butters type at the end of next year.​

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          • Mofra
            Hall of Fame
            • Dec 2006
            • 14944

            Originally posted by Axe Man
            Footy’s salary cap explained and which clubs are ready to strike this off-season

            BULLDOGS
            The Dogs stars are all on excellent deals but the Dogs will have saved on players 15-40 on the list given many are role players on modest deals. The Bont is a million dollar man while Tim English and Aaron Naughton are close, Jamarra Ugle-Hagan is on around $800,000 this year and Ed Richards has just signed on again on a big extension. But while Sam Darcy’s four-year extension signed late last year is on excellent money with enough built-in incentives he’s nowhere near his earning peak yet and Ugle-Hagan will be gone next year. They moved on from deals for senior leaders Jackson Macrae (his last two years would have been back-ended) and Caleb Daniel. So even when they sign up Bontempelli again on a small fortune they will have space for a Zac Butters type at the end of next year.​
            We had money for Baz & Barrass too
            Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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            • JanLorMill
              WOOF Member
              • Feb 2023
              • 1688

              Originally posted by jazzadogs

              Lipinski isn't better for them, he's just older than when he was with us.

              The 'depth' of our midfield with Bont, Libba and Macrae, then Treloar as well, has meant that we have lost some really good players in Lipinski, Dunkley and Baz because they wanted to be the big dogs. They were all good players with us as well.
              I probably didn’t explain that well. Collingwood players always ‘lift for the jumper’. Having the most supporters, rabid ones at that and often an easy run with the umpires helps that. The media and fans also pump them up more than other clubs.
              McCreey and Lipinski are classic examples of this. Put them in other teams and they aren’t as good. Think Chris Dawes and Lyndon Dunn the other way.

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              • kruder
                Coaching Staff
                • May 2011
                • 3855

                So out of contract we have

                Libba
                Adz
                Liam Jones
                Arty
                Coffield
                Duryea
                JJ
                Baker

                I think it's good timing indeed for the bottom 4 can't see them on a list next year.

                Does dads army at Collingwood influence our decision on the senior citizens? Arty I would like to give 1 more year, but can understand if we let him go.

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 66684

                  Originally posted by kruder
                  So out of contract we have

                  Libba
                  Adz
                  Liam Jones
                  Arty
                  Coffield
                  Duryea
                  JJ
                  Baker

                  I think it's good timing indeed for the bottom 4 can't see them on a list next year.

                  Does dads army at Collingwood influence our decision on the senior citizens? Arty I would like to give 1 more year, but can understand if we let him go.
                  I would delist Jones, Duryea, JJ, Baker and maybe Coffield although he would be a good backup to keep as he is only 25. Arty lucky.
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                  • GVGjr
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 44618

                    Originally posted by Bornadog

                    I would delist Jones, Duryea, JJ, Baker and maybe Coffield although he would be a good backup to keep as he is only 25. Arty lucky.
                    I can see the potential sense in keeping Arty Jones but he has had 4 seasons to show something and he hasn't delivered on it.
                    He would likely be okay signing a 1 year deal so that's something.
                    In 4 seasons he's had 17 senior games and the last few of them have been either starting as the sub or being subbed off.

                    I just about agree with your other suggestions but Coffield would have to show something more before the end of the season. I'm 50/50 on Liam.
                    Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                    • jazzadogs
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 5638

                      Originally posted by kruder
                      So out of contract we have

                      Libba
                      Adz
                      Liam Jones
                      Arty
                      Coffield
                      Duryea
                      JJ
                      Baker

                      I think it's good timing indeed for the bottom 4 can't see them on a list next year.

                      Does dads army at Collingwood influence our decision on the senior citizens? Arty I would like to give 1 more year, but can understand if we let him go.
                      I found a list in a distant part of the internet which also included Tony Scott, Caleb Poulter and Sellwood.

                      Libba and Adz get another year each if medical signs off on it. I think Sellwood has shown enough to deserve another 12 months and a full pre season, assuming he has approached everything professionally.

                      Arty and Coffield next most likely to get one year deals.

                      JJ, Baker, Poulter, Scott - all depth players who have struggled to impact when they've come in at AFL this season.

                      I think Liam Jones and Duryea are no chance.

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                      • Scott2016
                        Rookie List
                        • Dec 2024
                        • 146

                        Keep Libba for another year.
                        With Treloar give him mimimum wage and $20,000 a game. If he plays every game he earns decent coin. If he injured for most of the year it costs us stuff all. If he dont like that, he can walk. We have paid too much in last few years for no play. Smith, Jamarra, Weightman and Treloar. Surely we need to be careful with someone like Treloar where we know he cannot fulfill his playing duties. Player managers keep wanting to lock them in whether they play or injured for the full season. We seem to have bad luck recently.

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                        • mighty_west
                          Coaching Staff
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 3438

                          Originally posted by kruder
                          So out of contract we have

                          Libba
                          Adz
                          Liam Jones
                          Arty
                          Coffield
                          Duryea
                          JJ
                          Baker

                          I think it's good timing indeed for the bottom 4 can't see them on a list next year.

                          Does dads army at Collingwood influence our decision on the senior citizens? Arty I would like to give 1 more year, but can understand if we let him go.
                          I'm cutting...

                          Arty - can pressure but not enough tricks, in a similar position to McNeil and VDM, they can all pressure but, at the end of the day, are they actually good enough? They can work hard, but do they work smart?
                          Duryea - gold watch
                          JJ - Bullgod forever, gold watch
                          Baker - just not up to it
                          Poulter (if OOC) - ditto Baker
                          Scott (if OOC) - i like Scott and a very neat player, but his body and concussions.

                          I'd even consider delisting Gardner too even with a year left, surely he's on minimum?

                          Coffield, Liam Jones, Treloar and Libba 1 year deals, they can become part of our depth and can have an impact if their bodies hold up especially the older three if they want to play on minimum chips, in fact as of this week Busslinger is now taking Liam's spot, and Liam has to earn it back if he's up to it for the rest of the season and beyond, Buss will time to time fluff a few, but then so did Lake and his constant brain fades, but i've seen enough at VFL level that he's always in the right positions and get's plenty of it, he was BOG last week v Brissy.

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                          • kruder
                            Coaching Staff
                            • May 2011
                            • 3855

                            Originally posted by jazzadogs

                            I found a list in a distant part of the internet which also included Tony Scott, Caleb Poulter and Sellwood.

                            Libba and Adz get another year each if medical signs off on it. I think Sellwood has shown enough to deserve another 12 months and a full pre season, assuming he has approached everything professionally.

                            Arty and Coffield next most likely to get one year deals.

                            JJ, Baker, Poulter, Scott - all depth players who have struggled to impact when they've come in at AFL this season.

                            I think Liam Jones and Duryea are no chance.
                            I pulled that list from fox thanks for the due diligence

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                            • kruder
                              Coaching Staff
                              • May 2011
                              • 3855

                              I was on board with getting Coffield on the list he was pretty much a free option.

                              I watched him closely in the VFL on Sunday and his one wood which is intercept marking deserted him even at the lower level and he turned the ball over under little pressure. I know he is still young but he has the biggest 5 weeks of his career coming up to stay on the list, he is up against IMO.

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                              • Grantysghost
                                Bouncing Strong
                                • Apr 2010
                                • 18952

                                Originally posted by kruder

                                I pulled that list from fox thanks for the due diligence
                                Some say there is a sticky on woof maintained by an unknown soldier that has all the up to date info.

                                So I've heard, I've never actually seen it myself.
                                BT COME BACK!​

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