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  • Cmac1297
    Rookie List
    • Dec 2024
    • 68

    What’s everyone’s thoughts on our out of contract players and who stays and who goes?
    I think L.Jones and Duryea most likely retire
    Also think Treloar, JJ, Poulter, Baker, Coffield and Sellwood deserve at least another year so that leaves Scott and A.Jones as possible delistings.
    Buku possible trade out along with Jamarra.
    So that’s maybe 6 out the door is that enough? Maybe a couple others may be stiff and get the chop also?

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    • ledge
      Hall of Fame
      • Dec 2007
      • 14353

      The point is it’s no good delisting players if there is no one better to replace them.
      I think a lot depends on what’s around in that space .
      Bring back the biff

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      • GVGjr
        Moderator
        • Nov 2006
        • 44732

        Originally posted by ledge
        The point is it’s no good delisting players if there is no one better to replace them.
        I think a lot depends on what’s around in that space .
        I get what you're saying but I'm not sure that it holds true.
        Replacing retired and marginal players is the cycle of the footy and the club has to back their talent identification.
        For example, Daniel would have struggled to keep a regular spot this year but we replaced him with Dolan.
        It's a slight step back in the short term but hopefully a better long term play.
        By year 2 or 3 we would be hoping Dolan becomes a regular senior player and someone who impacts the scoreboard.
        Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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        • Mofra
          Hall of Fame
          • Dec 2006
          • 14989

          Originally posted by GVGjr

          I get what you're saying but I'm not sure that it holds true.
          Replacing retired and marginal players is the cycle of the footy and the club has to back their talent identification.
          For example, Daniel would have struggled to keep a regular spot this year but we replaced him with Dolan.
          It's a slight step back in the short term but hopefully a better long term play.
          By year 2 or 3 we would be hoping Dolan becomes a regular senior player and someone who impacts the scoreboard.
          It depends on draft quality too - this year is considered but a weak and compromised draft so most teams will probably extend a fringe player by a year rather than cut too hard and pick up a bunch of kids unlikely to make it.

          I suspect we finish a bit early on night 2 of draft night this year.
          Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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          • GVGjr
            Moderator
            • Nov 2006
            • 44732

            Originally posted by Mofra
            It depends on draft quality too - this year is considered but a weak and compromised draft so most teams will probably extend a fringe player by a year rather than cut too hard and pick up a bunch of kids unlikely to make it.

            I suspect we finish a bit early on night 2 of draft night this year.
            I'm of the impression we tried to get ahead of the draft with our 2 mid season picks this year plus and the current plan (subject to change) is to only select 2 or 3 players as a max on draft night.
            Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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            • ledge
              Hall of Fame
              • Dec 2007
              • 14353

              Originally posted by GVGjr

              I get what you're saying but I'm not sure that it holds true.
              Replacing retired and marginal players is the cycle of the footy and the club has to back their talent identification.
              For example, Daniel would have struggled to keep a regular spot this year but we replaced him with Dolan.
              It's a slight step back in the short term but hopefully a better long term play.
              By year 2 or 3 we would be hoping Dolan becomes a regular senior player and someone who impacts the scoreboard.
              Yes and looking at the age factor and what is our game plan moving forward . Who best suits . Dolan is a way far better player in what we are looking for and as shown at Nth sadly Daniel has dropped off .
              I did make it simple I must say in my first post but I think our points do come together as one.
              Adding to the equation We also needed to do it now or Tassie would get a lot of the talent in the next few years .
              Bring back the biff

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              • azabob
                Hall of Fame
                • Sep 2008
                • 15337

                Originally posted by Cmac1297
                What’s everyone’s thoughts on our out of contract players and who stays and who goes?
                I think L.Jones and Duryea most likely retire
                Also think Treloar, JJ, Poulter, Baker, Coffield and Sellwood deserve at least another year so that leaves Scott and A.Jones as possible delistings.
                Buku possible trade out along with Jamarra.
                So that’s maybe 6 out the door is that enough? Maybe a couple others may be stiff and get the chop also?
                Surely Khamis will seek a trade? Croft is being played ahead of him and Lachie Smith now seems ahead of him in the pecking order.

                I can't see how Coffield, Poulter, Scott (sadly) can justify another contract.

                On A.Jones I'd sign him up for one more year. We need to follow the Lindsay Gaze analogy around height and ability but swap it with pace and ability.
                More of an In Bruges guy?

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                • GVGjr
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 44732

                  Originally posted by azabob

                  Surely Khamis will seek a trade? Croft is being played ahead of him and Lachie Smith now seems ahead of him in the pecking order.

                  I can't see how Coffield, Poulter, Scott (sadly) can justify another contract.

                  On A.Jones I'd sign him up for one more year. We need to follow the Lindsay Gaze analogy around height and ability but swap it with pace and ability.
                  Khamis is apparently seeing a couple of clubs in the next week or two but would prefer to say if he thinks he will be played

                  Regarding Arty, in 4 years he has only impacted a few games. He will probably get another season but on results he shouldn't.
                  I don't know if my memory is wrong but his best football in the seniors was when Cody was playing.
                  Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                  • Cmac1297
                    Rookie List
                    • Dec 2024
                    • 68

                    I think Coffield has shown enough in the vfl the last few months to deserve another year at least. Definitely a good depth option.

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                    • Mitcha
                      Draftee
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 733

                      Originally posted by Cmac1297
                      I think Coffield has shown enough in the vfl the last few months to deserve another year at least. Definitely a good depth option.
                      Can you please explain what you think he has shown at VFL level that would get him another season on an AFL list. He is treacle slow and a poor decision maker. Maybe VFL IS his level.

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                      • Cmac1297
                        Rookie List
                        • Dec 2024
                        • 68

                        Originally posted by Mitcha

                        Can you please explain what you think he has shown at VFL level that would get him another season on an AFL list. He is treacle slow and a poor decision maker. Maybe VFL IS his level.
                        Well really it depends if we bring a defender or 2 in, if we don’t well I don’t see what he’s done wrong in the vfl that would suggest he shouldn’t get another year to keep a bit of depth down back. Interrupted start to the year feel he’s built as the years gone on. Can play tall or small as well. Likely jones and Duryea will finish up as well so what do you suggest?

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                        • Mofra
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 14989

                          Coffield really does position himself well. His body issues have destroyed not just his speed but his lateral movement too. I have no faith he can play small.
                          Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                          • Go_Dogs
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 10171

                            Originally posted by Mofra
                            Coffield really does position himself well. His body issues have destroyed not just his speed but his lateral movement too. I have no faith he can play small.
                            Unfortunately it hasn’t worked out. He’s just not going to be anything better than a 5th option for us as a medium+ defender and he can’t play any other roles at this stage of his career and injury history.

                            We might not get a prospect as “ready” to play AFL if required but I would prefer we roll the dice and see what we can find. The one caveat is if we lose more than Jones in our medium+ defender list.
                            Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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                            • Go_Dogs
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 10171

                              For list changes, I’d probably be looking at:
                              Jones - retire
                              Duryea - retire
                              Scott - delist
                              Poulter - delist
                              Coffield - delist

                              If JJ and Treloar want to go another year I’d be supportive of both and expect at least one of them will.

                              Poulter nearly played himself into a new contract but suspect Baker gets a nod ahead of him based on form over the last few weeks. Poulter just doesn’t have “it” for tenacity and while we’ve tried to find a spot for him as he has natural ability it hasn’t quite worked out.

                              Scott is unlucky in some ways - he’s had injury troubles which have limited him and when healthy his VFL form has seemed solid without being spectacular (based on my interpretation of reports).

                              Arty Jones probably gets one more year because we don’t have anyone with his wheels. If the draft crop was deeper than touted he’d perhaps be next in line.
                              Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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                              • Grantysghost
                                Bouncing Strong
                                • Apr 2010
                                • 18997

                                Coffield was a good player, now he's a long way back sadly. I doubt we keep him on.
                                One of those guys that would be a perfect VFL captain.
                                BT COME BACK!​

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