Recruiting Speculation File 2013

[chef]

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Yep, I wouldn't trade Libba either.

Imagine trading him and he ends up one of the best players in the comp.

Plus there's also another on the way

[G-Mo77]

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No from me for trading Libba. He's an outright gun and his blood lines run deep in the club.

Ludicrous to even suggest it.

[1eyedog]

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No from me for trading Libba. He's an outright gun and his blood lines run deep in the club.

Ludicrous to even suggest it.

Agreed. Part of the fabric and can't be touched.

[stefoid]

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Libba is still improving. He is already probably the best inside player in the comp. Next step is to carry the ball more and use the ball more dangerously on the outside.

[jeemak]

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I can't agree, so far as I can see the sky is the limit for Libba. What are these limitations you speak of? Everyone presumed his kicking would be a concern but he's turned out to be one of the best kicks in the side with that lethal left boot. He's also shown that he's not slow. If guys like Simon Black and Sam Mitchell can be out and out champions of the game, why can't Libba be also?

No, I wouldn't trade domination at the clearances for the next 10 years for two unproven tall forwards. Libba is untouchable.

So you don't agree that players like Cooney and Griffen are harder to replace than what a player like Liberatore is?

Or do you disagree that clubs will always place a premium on securing tall talent?

Liberatore's limitations include not being overly strong overhead, and not hurting the opposition on the scoreboard.

He plays an inside role, which means he doesn't do much in open space, but I can't count that against him as he doesn't decide where and how he should be playing. Though, I'm not sure he'll ever be able to find the balance a player like Griffen has between the two.

I don't recall saying he can't be a champion. I do recall saying he should have been made an All Australian. Saying he has some limitations isn't blasphemy, let's be realistic about things.

The potential trade posted by BT won't happen, so I don't really know what all the fuss is about.

[bulldogtragic]

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The potential trade posted by BT won't happen, so I don't really know what all the fuss is about.

Hey, don't blame me, I just responded!

[ratsmac]

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Trading Libba isn't even funny. Stupid topic, move on.

[comrade]

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Trading Libba isn't even funny. Stupid topic, move on.

Sorry, didn't realise we needed to pass all topics through you for approval. Cheers for the heads up.

It's a discussion piece on a discussion board. Kinda goes with the territory.

The preciousness of people on the internet is hilarious.

[LostDoggy]

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Sorry, didn't realise we needed to pass all topics through you for approval. Cheers for the heads up.

It's a discussion piece on a discussion board. Kinda goes with the territory.

The preciousness of people on the internet is hilarious.

Agree completely.

FWIW I belive Libba is untouchable from purely a football perspective. In only his third year he's established himself as arguably the best inside player in the competition. He has a laser-like left boot and is actually quite quick. I imagine the perception that he is slow stems from the fact he is so good in the contest coupled with that awkward running gait. His acceleration is outstanding as he showed with that running goal against Melbourne in Round 23. It's a big call but I believe Libba has all the ingredients to be the best player in the AFL one day.

[ledge]

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Libba is still improving why would you give up someone who has been our greatest asset the last two years with 12 years of footy still to come, kids a gun and now he is even doing a "Cooney" running out ofthe centre and kicking goals, seriously is their much better kid with so much to come in the league ?

[Maddog37]

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Perfect example of a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. A though I think the surname adds to the desire to keep him.

[hujsh]

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The only argument for trading Libba for those picks, that I see, is it's the kind of risk that, if it pays off, could bring the club a premiership.

Then there's the actual risk of whether these players end up being worth it, what this does to our clubs culture and the attitude of the players etc.

[Topdog]

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The only argument for trading Libba for those picks, that I see, is it's the kind of risk that, if it pays off, could bring the club a premiership.

Then there's the actual risk of whether these players end up being worth it, what this does to our clubs culture and the attitude of the players etc.

Exactly and hence why it is good to discuss IMO.

[hujsh]

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Exactly and hence why it is good to discuss IMO.

Well everything is worth discussion on a forum (don't agree with blindly dismissing a topic without an argument for or against), but for me the risk is too high in a deal like this, even though it is basically the best trade we could ever hope for with Libba.

[Mofra]

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So you don't agree that players like Cooney and Griffen are harder to replace than what a player like Liberatore is?

In terms of tangibles - absolutely yes, both are the best midfielder in their respective drafts.

In terms of intangibles it's a harder call - both have stayed at the Bulldogs for less money than they could have gained elsewhere (puts the "go home factor" myth the bed when you compare them to Ward) but Liberatore as a FS pick and famous name at the club adds more to the group than his ability suggests.

He's also elite in what he does - there is this curious Woof-led habit of focussing mostly on a player's weaknesses, but his strengths are elite and elute attributes are almost impossible to teach. You can guide, enhance - but you can't instill them.

We are going to be largely a "draft & develop" type club, and trading under the B-Mac reign is almost entirely focussed on value rather than star factor. I'd expect that methodology to continue.