Coronavirus Info & Helpful Direction

[jeemak]

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You don't know you're alive. A month after we had our first baby the Longford power plant exploded and there was no gas in Victoria for almost a month.


Good luck raising a baby in the middle of winter with no hot water, no heating, no stove to cook on, no hot water in the washing machine. This is a picnic ride compared to that.

Yeah, that was roughly three weeks in late September to mid October. I'm sure it was really tough, but not sure how tough this will be for people if this continues for three or four months...……...especially if they're cooped up, without jobs, with young kids including newborns etc. all going completely bananas.

I genuinely fear for the mental health of people, for people in abusive relationships who have to stay home with their partners, and for children exposed to the abuse.

This is where the VIC government information is contained. There's a section for domestic violence contained within:

https://www.dhhs.vic.gov.au/coronavirus

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

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MYER have closed all the stores til April 27th (don’t believe that). 10,000 workers now on the Centrelink line (me included obviously). I’m 48 and never had a welfare check of any sort. It really puts this epidemic into proportion.

It was nice to know though that the media announced it before the staff was even told.

I guess getting into Centrelink now is a bonus, coz just imagine the bombardment once we go to stage 3 and most employees from Bunnings, big W, Kmart, David Jones, H&M, etc etc are also joining the lines.

Best of luck to you DG. Really brings home how widely this is permeating through our society and the depth of the problem, beyond just the health impacts.

[Twodogs]

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Yeah, that was roughly three weeks in late September to mid October. I'm sure it was really tough, but not sure how tough this will be for people if this continues for three or four months...……...especially if they're cooped up, without jobs, with young kids including newborns etc. all going completely bananas.

It was hell. Neither of us had much exposure to kids (my wife played guitar and sang in a band, and I wasn't exactly maternal at that stage) and you are terrified that you are going to somehow break the baby. TBH I'd rather have a baby right now because your neighbours will go out of their way to make sure that you are OK by cooking an extra couple of meals (just drop the plates back on the verandah love). Well mine would have anyway. But they can't fill the copper with hot water or make the showers work.

I genuinely fear for the mental health of people, for people in abusive relationships[/B] who have to stay home with their partners, and for children exposed to the abuse.

I worry about kids who have a shit home life with abusive parents who don't care for them properly. Often times the only chance to get a bit of relief and normalcy (or even get food in their tummies) is when they are at school.

It would have been bad enough for them when their parents were at work. Now they are stuck indoors with them 24/7...

[jeemak]

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MYER have closed all the stores til April 27th (don’t believe that). 10,000 workers now on the Centrelink line (me included obviously). I’m 48 and never had a welfare check of any sort. It really puts this epidemic into proportion.

It was nice to know though that the media announced it before the staff was even told.

I guess getting into Centrelink now is a bonus, coz just imagine the bombardment once we go to stage 3 and most employees from Bunnings, big W, Kmart, David Jones, H&M, etc etc are also joining the lines.

Feel for you DG, and really don't know how companies can keep stuffing this type of thing up!

[Remi Moses]

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Yeah, that was roughly three weeks in late September to mid October. I'm sure it was really tough, but not sure how tough this will be for people if this continues for three or four months...……...especially if they're cooped up, without jobs, with young kids including newborns etc. all going completely bananas.

I genuinely fear for the mental health of people, for people in abusive relationships who have to stay home with their partners, and for children exposed to the abuse.

This is where the VIC government information is contained. There's a section for domestic violence contained within:

https://www.dhhs.vic.gov.au/coronavirus

Great post Jee
Exactly right , domestic abuse is in record proportions and it’s extremely concerning

[soupman]

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Um what's the actual gameplan here though?

I understand the "lockdown" is about getting it under control so that our health system isn't overwhelmed and we can better protect the more susceptible, but say we succeed in this and in 3-4 weeks time the infection rate is decreasing and we appear to have got it under control what happens then?

If we resume normal life do we not just restart the process? The population that has already been exposed to it and recovered would theoretically be immune (although I'm unsure if this is true), but that would still be less than 50% of the population. So if we go back to normal doesn't it spread like wildfire again, as there would still be no vaccine nor herd immunity.

I imagine we are aiming to:
a) Get this all back in relative control so that our hospitals aren't overwhelmed
b) Give ourselves a chance to try to get the health sector ahead of the ball game by being able to delay and limit it really taking off so we can bring specialist Covid units online, whether that is through new staff/converted hospitals etc.

But beyond that I'm not sure a vaccine is coming anytime soon, maybe we will find a way to limit the spread somewhat but who knows if that's even that feasible considering the huge difficulties thus far.

[anfo27]

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Work life for my wife & i hasn't changed so far. My wife from Tuesday will be working from home & as long as childcare remains open the 2 terrorists have a place to burn off that energy.

I originally thought my work colleagues & i would be fine but midway through last week i've had to re evaluate that. I never expected for all labs to be sent home, all projects finished where possible & no new projects allowed to go forward unless given approval by the University Dean. Unless that project is tied to the virus then they won't be getting approval anytime soon. With my experience i'm relatively safe for now but the future looks bleak.

After the GFC we found a year or so later it started to impact the industry. It used to be formality really that you could get a grant for just about anything but after the GFC it was very difficult to get grants. I've seen researchers have to leave the industry because it was too difficult to get grants. What we are going to go through will make the GFC look like an amusement park ride.

I really feel for woofers everywhere who have lost their livelihoods & i hope you have a support structure around you to help in times like this. I'd love to be upbeat & say this will all blow over soon & life will be back to normal but i don't think that for a second. I guess the silver lining for me is that people everywhere are nicer to one another, so thats something.

[G-Mo77]

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Um what's the actual gameplan here though?

I understand the "lockdown" is about getting it under control so that our health system isn't overwhelmed and we can better protect the more susceptible, but say we succeed in this and in 3-4 weeks time the infection rate is decreasing and we appear to have got it under control what happens then?

If we resume normal life do we not just restart the process? The population that has already been exposed to it and recovered would theoretically be immune (although I'm unsure if this is true), but that would still be less than 50% of the population. So if we go back to normal doesn't it spread like wildfire again, as there would still be no vaccine nor herd immunity.

I imagine we are aiming to:
a) Get this all back in relative control so that our hospitals aren't overwhelmed
b) Give ourselves a chance to try to get the health sector ahead of the ball game by being able to delay and limit it really taking off so we can bring specialist Covid units online, whether that is through new staff/converted hospitals etc.

But beyond that I'm not sure a vaccine is coming anytime soon, maybe we will find a way to limit the spread somewhat but who knows if that's even that feasible considering the huge difficulties thus far.

Also wonder about this as well. I guess the virus only lives for so long so if you drop infections down so low it could almost be eradicated, almost. You're possibly right, we could end up back at square one?

In all honesty I think we'll be like this for months and months. Our Government kinds of sends us a message that it is short term lockdown, I've only heard Scumo say 6 months I think that is more of a realistic time line but still optimistic. Our way of life beyond this will be completely different, that's what I'm struggling with right now.

[Bulldog Joe]

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Um what's the actual gameplan here though?

I understand the "lockdown" is about getting it under control so that our health system isn't overwhelmed and we can better protect the more susceptible, but say we succeed in this and in 3-4 weeks time the infection rate is decreasing and we appear to have got it under control what happens then?

If we resume normal life do we not just restart the process? The population that has already been exposed to it and recovered would theoretically be immune (although I'm unsure if this is true), but that would still be less than 50% of the population. So if we go back to normal doesn't it spread like wildfire again, as there would still be no vaccine nor herd immunity.

I imagine we are aiming to:
a) Get this all back in relative control so that our hospitals aren't overwhelmed
b) Give ourselves a chance to try to get the health sector ahead of the ball game by being able to delay and limit it really taking off so we can bring specialist Covid units online, whether that is through new staff/converted hospitals etc.

But beyond that I'm not sure a vaccine is coming anytime soon, maybe we will find a way to limit the spread somewhat but who knows if that's even that feasible considering the huge difficulties thus far.

My view, would that when we have no new infection we are ready to resume our life.

However, that resumption would require any international traveller to be in strict quarantine for at least 2 weeks.

If we can have a control over movement of new arrivals we should not see a resumption of the contagion.

12 months confining Australia to Australians and we should be close to the vaccine that would permit normal service.

If a vaccine becomes available earlier the lockdowns and quarantine can be eased

[GVGjr]

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Maybe it is the optimist in me, but I am encouraged by the numbers yesterday.

We may have stopped a major contagion locally and if everyone does the right thing we should see some possibility of getting back to the new normality earlier than Europe and America.

We might even have a more localised economy with some essential manufacturing as a consequence.

Everybody hang tough and we can look forward to returning to enjoyable times.

The problem is the number of people with the virus in Australia is so high now even if the by day % drops it's still going to double way too quickly.
Once they ramp up more testing it will be interesting to see if we can flatten the curve. Victoria for example lags well behind both NSW and QLD in testing.

[comrade]

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For 1, our border should be closed for at least 3-6 months after the infection is under control.

[Bornadog]

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Government has released an app for your phone to keep up to date and get help:

some detail here

[Bulldog Joe]

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For 1, our border should be closed for at least 3-6 months after the infection is under control.

Are you talking state borders or national.

I would like to see state borders opened, but keep international travel out for at least 6 months.

[comrade]

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Are you talking state borders or national.

I would like to see state borders opened, but keep international travel out for at least 6 months.

International. I don't trust people to stick to the 14 day mandatory isolation period.

[Bornadog]

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International. I don't trust people to stick to the 14 day mandatory isolation period.

Singapore put an app on every persons phone that was supposed to be self Isolating. If you leave home, you are sent to jail. If you are an expat, you are sent home. Now that is the way you control people.