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  • Twodogs
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 27654

    Re: Sheffield Shield

    Originally posted by bornadog
    This is the ball after 106 overs

    How often do they bowl with a ball for 106 overs?
    They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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    • GVGjr
      Moderator
      • Nov 2006
      • 44635

      Re: Sheffield Shield

      I was having a look at the WA team and they player 4 players with genuine wicket keeping abilities

      Whiteman, Bancroft, Philippe and Inglis. Inglis was the preferred keeper in this game
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      • Twodogs
        Moderator
        • Nov 2006
        • 27654

        Re: Sheffield Shield

        Originally posted by GVGjr
        I was having a look at the WA team and they player 4 players with genuine wicket keeping abilities

        Whiteman, Bancroft, Philippe and Inglis. Inglis was the preferred keeper in this game
        Is that more because of the explosion in T20 cricket? Do some players get a 'role' as keeper in T20 games who wouldn't really cut the mustard in the longer form of the game?

        T20 is a lot more forgiving than the long form of the game for the fielders in the arc.
        They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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        • GVGjr
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 44635

          Re: Sheffield Shield

          Originally posted by Twodogs
          Is that more because of the explosion in T20 cricket? Do some players get a 'role' as keeper in T20 games who wouldn't really cut the mustard in the longer form of the game?

          T20 is a lot more forgiving than the long form of the game for the fielders in the arc.
          I think they are all decent keepers, I'll bow to Lem's knowledge but I suspect they are all better than Handscomb with the gloves
          Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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          • Twodogs
            Moderator
            • Nov 2006
            • 27654

            Re: Sheffield Shield

            Originally posted by GVGjr
            I think they are all decent keepers, I'll bow to Lem's knowledge but I suspect they are all better than Handscomb with the gloves
            I kept for years at park level but I must admit that I have never really taken T20 form in any part of the game all that seriously. Like I said at T20 level a few blokes get the gloves who wouldn't really be taken seriously at the long form (or even limited overs) cricket.

            Keeping is bloody hard. It's all pressure and the equipment that you wear gets really hot and uncomfortable after a couple of hours but any mistake that you make is amplified by 1000 in terms of the runs that it costs your team. A lot of players assume that they can do it but they get found out quickly. It's not like the first slip can just take a step to the right and put the gloves on. They get found out.
            They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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            • lemmon
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Nov 2008
              • 6521

              Re: Sheffield Shield

              Originally posted by Twodogs
              I kept for years at park level but I must admit that I have never really taken T20 form in any part of the game all that seriously. Like I said at T20 level a few blokes get the gloves who wouldn't really be taken seriously at the long form (or even limited overs) cricket.

              Keeping is bloody hard. It's all pressure and the equipment that you wear gets really hot and uncomfortable after a couple of hours but any mistake that you make is amplified by 1000 in terms of the runs that it costs your team. A lot of players assume that they can do it but they get found out quickly. It's not like the first slip can just take a step to the right and put the gloves on. They get found out.
              I reckon it's more that the guys that make it through to Shield have always been the most coordinated kids in their age group and were given the gloves as a matter of course.

              They can all keep - Bancroft has lost the gloves as he's come through first-class cricket and has focused on his batting, but he was a number 7 dasher and wicketkeeper coming through the age groups. I think they'll keep the gloves away from Whiteman with his finger problems (and he's such a talented player).

              Philippe and Inglis are genuine keepers too - they probably feel like Philippe offers more as a middle-order batsman so Inglis gets the gloves.

              Phillippe is one of my young cricketers to watch this year. Little bit of the right-handed David Warners about him in terms of stature and the way he gets his hands through the ball. He hasn't quite made it yet in first-class cricket, but there's a lot to like about him.

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              • Twodogs
                Moderator
                • Nov 2006
                • 27654

                Re: Sheffield Shield

                Originally posted by lemmon
                I reckon it's more that the guys that make it through to Shield have always been the most coordinated kids in their age group and were given the gloves as a matter of course.

                They can all keep - Bancroft has lost the gloves as he's come through first-class cricket and has focused on his batting, but he was a number 7 dasher and wicketkeeper coming through the age groups. I think they'll keep the gloves away from Whiteman with his finger problems (and he's such a talented player).

                Philippe and Inglis are genuine keepers too - they probably feel like Philippe offers more as a middle-order batsman so Inglis gets the gloves.

                Phillippe is one of my young cricketers to watch this year. Little bit of the right-handed David Warners about him in terms of stature and the way he gets his hands through the ball. He hasn't quite made it yet in first-class cricket, but there's a lot to like about him.
                I rate both Phippipe (especially in T20, he could be one of the best players at that level and Ingliss doesn't need to limit himself to that level, he can star at all 3 I reckon.
                They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                • Twodogs
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 27654

                  Re: Sheffield Shield

                  Unbelievable! Michael Neser, still yet to concede a run in his seventh over, now has 3-0 after trapping Jake Weatherald lbw

                  7-7-0-3. Amazing figures.
                  They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                  • Bornadog
                    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 66703

                    Re: Sheffield Shield

                    Tasmania v Vics.

                    Some big fails with Will P. out for 3, Harris 13, Handscomb 11. 6/55 at lunch
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                    • Axe Man
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 11166

                      Re: Sheffield Shield

                      Originally posted by bornadog
                      Tasmania v Vics.

                      Some big fails with Will P. out for 3, Harris 13, Handscomb 11. 6/55 at lunch
                      Lone hand from Maddinson with 69 out of 127. He may be an outside chance to return to the test team with some excellent shield form and a call up for the Australia A team.

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                      • lemmon
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 6521

                        Re: Sheffield Shield

                        Originally posted by Axe Man
                        Lone hand from Maddinson with 69 out of 127. He may be an outside chance to return to the test team with some excellent shield form and a call up for the Australia A team.
                        One of those cases when picking him for the test side early hurt more than helped.

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                        • Axe Man
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 11166

                          Re: Sheffield Shield

                          Originally posted by lemmon
                          One of those cases when picking him for the test side early hurt more than helped.
                          He actually has just said in a recent interview that he didn't think he deserved to be picked 3 years ago. It's a good example of why they must be careful with the selection of Pucovski.

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                          • GVGjr
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 44635

                            Re: Sheffield Shield

                            Originally posted by Axe Man
                            He actually has just said in a recent interview that he didn't think he deserved to be picked 3 years ago. It's a good example of why they must be careful with the selection of Pucovski.
                            Couldn't agree more, he's a special talent but he needs to get a few more Shield games experience

                            I think he will be picked for the first test but I caution against it
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                            • Twodogs
                              Moderator
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 27654

                              Re: Sheffield Shield

                              Originally posted by GVGjr
                              Couldn't agree more, he's a special talent but he needs to get a few more Shield games experience

                              I think he will be picked for the first test but I caution against it
                              I don't like the idea either. He makes big hundreds but he just doesn't seem ready for the step up in class yet to me.
                              They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                              • Bornadog
                                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 66703

                                Re: Sheffield Shield

                                Originally posted by Axe Man
                                He actually has just said in a recent interview that he didn't think he deserved to be picked 3 years ago. It's a good example of why they must be careful with the selection of Pucovski.
                                Will out for 7 in the second innings.
                                FFC: Established 1883

                                Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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