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  • boydogs
    WOOF Member
    • Apr 2009
    • 5844

    Re: World Cup Squad - 2019

    Originally posted by Axe Man
    So I assume if we beat South Africa and stay top of the table we play 4th (New Zealand) in the semi? That is certainly a better outcome than England I would think.
    Yep, a likely Aus v Eng final, should be a cracker
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    • Bornadog
      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
      • Jan 2007
      • 66688

      Re: World Cup Squad - 2019

      Big session in the nets. Shaun Marsh out after copping one for Cummings, Smith Finger, and Maxwell arm but should be ok.
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      • GVGjr
        Moderator
        • Nov 2006
        • 44622

        Re: World Cup Squad - 2019

        Handscomb replaces Marsh
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        • Axe Man
          Hall of Fame
          • Nov 2008
          • 11150

          Re: World Cup Squad - 2019

          If Maxwell doesn't come up for South Africa Handscomb could be straight into the team!

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          • DOG GOD
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Jul 2007
            • 6544

            Re: World Cup Squad - 2019

            Originally posted by Axe Man
            The recent record between the 2 teams heavily favours India so I doubt that's the case.
            True, but the did beat them in the champions trophy in England in 2015, maybe that is still on their mind. On any given day Pakistan can explode or implode, somehow I don’t think India wanted to risk it.
            I will never see #16 the same!!

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            • GVGjr
              Moderator
              • Nov 2006
              • 44622

              Re: World Cup Squad - 2019

              Unreal game against SA last night, once again Stoinis and Maxwell failed to make an impression with bat or ball and once again Carey played a great cameo that got us close to a winning position but really not that close.

              Huge game now against the hosts who have rebounded strongly in the last 2 games

              It looks like Handscomb in for the injured Khawaja and Mitch Marsh in for the injured Stoinis
              Matt Wade must be unlucky if he isn't picked to replace Khawaja
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              • Axe Man
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                • Nov 2008
                • 11150

                Re: World Cup Squad - 2019

                Originally posted by GVGjr
                It looks like Handscomb in for the injured Khawaja and Mitch Marsh in for the injured Stoinis
                Matt Wade must be unlucky if he isn't picked to replace Khawaja
                Wade has come into the squad for Khawaja. I think they are assessing Stoinis before they make a decision on Marsh. Stoinis hasn't been great thus far so won't lose anything with Marsh. Interesting to see if they go with the more steady batting option in Handscomb or opt for the explosive Wade who is in excellent form.

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 66688

                  Re: World Cup Squad - 2019

                  Originally posted by Axe Man
                  Wade has come into the squad for Khawaja. I think they are assessing Stoinis before they make a decision on Marsh. Stoinis hasn't been great thus far so won't lose anything with Marsh. Interesting to see if they go with the more steady batting option in Handscomb or opt for the explosive Wade who is in excellent form.
                  I would go WAde. Has made two centuries on the A tour and in good form. Perhaps Handscomb for Stoinis, with Smith doing some bowling.
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                  • FrediKanoute
                    Coaching Staff
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 3826

                    Re: World Cup Squad - 2019

                    Originally posted by GVGjr
                    Unreal game against SA last night, once again Stoinis and Maxwell failed to make an impression with bat or ball and once again Carey played a great cameo that got us close to a winning position but really not that close.

                    Huge game now against the hosts who have rebounded strongly in the last 2 games

                    It looks like Handscomb in for the injured Khawaja and Mitch Marsh in for the injured Stoinis
                    Matt Wade must be unlucky if he isn't picked to replace Khawaja
                    Can you bat Marsh at 5 or 6? That is effectively where Stoinis has been batting. Bringing in Marsh , you can only bat him at 7 and rely on him as a bowling all rounder. This would mean pushing both Maxwell and Carey up. Whilst there is an argument that Carey should move up, Maxwell is not a batsman I would want in any earlier than the 40th over.

                    The dilemma that the Aussies face is whether 1) you go with Marsh as a batting all rounder in your top 6; or 2) whether you strengthen your batting with both Wade and Handscomb coming in to replace the 2 injured guys. The former leaves you a batsman short and the latter means that you need to squeeze 10 overs out of Maxwell, Finch and Smith. What will those overs cost you?

                    In terms of Thursday's game, I think its going to be tough. If we lose the toss, without early wickets we will lose the game. The first 5 to 10 overs will dictate what happpens. For Australia to chase, we would need to keep them to 310 or lower. If Australia bats first, then I think anything North of 300 will be a good score; 325 will be a winning score. England are a completely different proposition on a flat deck at Edgebaston with Roy at the top of the order. Hope for some rain and humidity.

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                    • GVGjr
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 44622

                      Re: World Cup Squad - 2019

                      Originally posted by FrediKanoute
                      Can you bat Marsh at 5 or 6? That is effectively where Stoinis has been batting. Bringing in Marsh , you can only bat him at 7 and rely on him as a bowling all rounder. This would mean pushing both Maxwell and Carey up. Whilst there is an argument that Carey should move up, Maxwell is not a batsman I would want in any earlier than the 40th over.

                      The dilemma that the Aussies face is whether 1) you go with Marsh as a batting all rounder in your top 6; or 2) whether you strengthen your batting with both Wade and Handscomb coming in to replace the 2 injured guys. The former leaves you a batsman short and the latter means that you need to squeeze 10 overs out of Maxwell, Finch and Smith. What will those overs cost you?

                      In terms of Thursday's game, I think its going to be tough. If we lose the toss, without early wickets we will lose the game. The first 5 to 10 overs will dictate what happpens. For Australia to chase, we would need to keep them to 310 or lower. If Australia bats first, then I think anything North of 300 will be a good score; 325 will be a winning score. England are a completely different proposition on a flat deck at Edgebaston with Roy at the top of the order. Hope for some rain and humidity.
                      I wouldn't be unhappy to see Carey at 6 and Mitch Marsh at 7, strengthens our bowling and I don't think we lose much with Stoinis either with his batting or bowling. The slower pitches they will produce now might be a challenge for Marsh's bowling though

                      Wade could be the wild card for us.

                      Agree with you observations.
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                      • Ozza
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 6400

                        Re: World Cup Squad - 2019

                        I'd be happy to see the below - with Maxwell/Finch/Smith the options to fill the 5th 10 over block. Risky I know. But prefer recognised batsmen in the slots.

                        Finch
                        Warner
                        Smith
                        Handscomb
                        Maxwell
                        Wade
                        Carey
                        Cummins
                        Starc
                        Behrendorf
                        Lyon

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                        • lemmon
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 6520

                          Re: World Cup Squad - 2019

                          Does anyone else kinda think that Wade and Handscomb into the squad actually make us stronger heading into the semi? We may miss Khawaja, but suddenly we have two far more dynamic batting options in the mix.

                          I feel like we need the extra bowling against England. I'd go:

                          Finch
                          Warner
                          Smith
                          Wade
                          Carey
                          Maxwell
                          M. Marsh
                          Cummins
                          Starc
                          Behrendorf
                          Lyon

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                          • FrediKanoute
                            Coaching Staff
                            • Aug 2007
                            • 3826

                            Re: World Cup Squad - 2019

                            Originally posted by lemmon
                            Does anyone else kinda think that Wade and Handscomb into the squad actually make us stronger heading into the semi? We may miss Khawaja, but suddenly we have two far more dynamic batting options in the mix.

                            I feel like we need the extra bowling against England. I'd go:

                            Finch
                            Warner
                            Smith
                            Wade
                            Carey
                            Maxwell
                            M. Marsh
                            Cummins
                            Starc
                            Behrendorf
                            Lyon
                            I am kind of with you Lemmon on this. The game on Thursday will be won with the bowling. If Australia can keep England to a sub 300 score we should win. If they get off to a flyer then we will struggle. The first 10 overs of the game are critical. I think pound for pound they are a more destructive batting side than us and can hurt teams and hurt them quickly. Taking a risk and playing a bowler short and hoping that Smith, Maxwell and Finch can steal ten overs means that you really are reliant on the other 4 bowlers to have good days. I suspect that if Stoinis is not fit they will go with the line up you have suggested.

                            I was really worried about having to play in Edgebaston, but the truth is to win the world cup we were always going to have to beat England and/or India. In some ways if we beat England we carry momentum into the final. Its all knock out from here.

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                            • GVGjr
                              Moderator
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 44622

                              Re: World Cup Squad - 2019

                              Originally posted by lemmon
                              Does anyone else kinda think that Wade and Handscomb into the squad actually make us stronger heading into the semi? We may miss Khawaja, but suddenly we have two far more dynamic batting options in the mix.

                              I feel like we need the extra bowling against England. I'd go:

                              Finch
                              Warner
                              Smith
                              Wade
                              Carey
                              Maxwell
                              M. Marsh
                              Cummins
                              Starc
                              Behrendorf
                              Lyon
                              Spot on Lem, shame about Khawaja but this would give us our best chance to get past and inform host.
                              We might get thrashed but get players that have form higher up the batting order

                              It looks like a strong side from my perspective
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                              • Axe Man
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 11150

                                Re: World Cup Squad - 2019

                                New Zealand struggling to post a defendable total before rain stopped play at 5/211 after 46.1. Looks like they may get to around 240, doubtful that will be enough.

                                Handscomb has been confirmed as an in by Langer. Stoinis has passed his fitness test. Speculation that Maxwell could be dropped for Wade.

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