Following our exes...................

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  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 66096

    Re: Following our exes...................

    Originally posted by EasternWest
    I'm moderately concerned that you're aware of the existence of that.

    On the other hand, I want one.
    I bet Jee already has one
    FFC: Established 1883

    Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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    • EasternWest
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Aug 2009
      • 9993

      Re: Following our exes...................

      Originally posted by bornadog
      I bet Jee already has one
      If he was a true team player he'd order one for all of us.
      "It's over. It's all over."

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      • Happy Days
        Hall of Fame
        • May 2008
        • 10086

        Re: Following our exes...................

        Why did people in the 1990s not just simply watch the NBA
        - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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        • jeemak
          Bulldog Legend
          • Oct 2010
          • 21577

          Re: Following our exes...................

          Originally posted by Bulldog Revolution
          You're losing money by not buying that.
          TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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          • jeemak
            Bulldog Legend
            • Oct 2010
            • 21577

            Re: Following our exes...................

            Originally posted by Happy Days
            Why did people in the 1990s not just simply watch the NBA
            We did. But only the NBL had Phil Smyth and Ray Borner.
            TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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            • Grantysghost
              Bouncing Strong
              • Apr 2010
              • 18882

              Re: Following our exes...................

              Originally posted by jeemak
              We did. But only the NBL had Phil Smyth and Ray Borner.
              Dean Utoff
              BT COME BACK!​

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              • EasternWest
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Aug 2009
                • 9993

                Re: Following our exes...................

                Originally posted by jeemak
                We did. But only the NBL had Phil Smyth and Ray Borner.
                Larry Sengstock
                "It's over. It's all over."

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                • azabob
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 15207

                  Re: Following our exes...................

                  GG here is the evidence.

                  He was out of contract with the Bulldogs, who had reportedly offered him $1.3 million for three years (around $433k per year), and were ultimately unable to keep him at the Whitten Oval.

                  Eade coached the Dogs in 2011 before stepping down late in the season, not long before Ward was whisked away to western Sydney after just four seasons and 60 games in the red, white and blue.

                  The ex-coach describes it as ?bad management? that the club lost Ward who will play his 300th AFL game when the Giants meet Essendon on Saturday evening.

                  Eade indicated it was a shame that Ward, who grew up in the western suburbs of Melbourne and played junior footy for Spotswood, did not end up a one-club player with the Doggies.

                  ?He?s been fantastic. His courage, his unflinching eye on the footy no matter which way the ball was coming, his hardness at it,? Eade said of Ward on SEN?s Sportsday.

                  ?He was a good kid. Really it was bad that we lost him, it was really bad management at the time that he was able to go.

                  ?Someone low-balled him a lot to his manager. He didn?t really want to go. I think he asked for a little bit more, about $30,000 a year or something, it wasn?t a lot.

                  ?All of a sudden GWS, whether his manager mentioned something to GWS, came over the top and blew everything out of the park.

                  ?We shouldn?t have got to that stage. It?s unfortunate (that he left the Bulldogs).

                  ?He?s a really good lad, he?s had a fantastic career. He?s had a few injuries but it?s a testament, not only to his ability, but his mental and physical toughness to get where he is.?

                  Eade admits he was angry that the Dogs allowed the homegrown product to walk, referencing it as one of a few poor list management decisions the club made at the time.

                  ?Yes, I was (furious),? he added.

                  ?There were a couple of others that were nearly the same thing, trying to low-ball them. We nearly lost Brian Lake at one stage which was similar, before people intervened.

                  ?There were a few bad decisions being made at that particular time, Jarrod Harbrow was another.

                  ?You try to low-ball them too much, the managers are smarter and they go, ?Hang on, they don?t value you enough?. They?re the words that get spoken and they start looking somewhere else.




                  More of an In Bruges guy?

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                  • ledge
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 14117

                    Re: Following our exes...................

                    So Gowers and Rourke Smith kicked two each and McComb got 31 possessions at Port Melbourne as they defeated Coburg by 32 points.
                    Bring back the biff

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                    • Bornadog
                      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 66096

                      Re: Following our exes...................

                      Originally posted by azabob
                      GG here is the evidence.

                      He was out of contract with the Bulldogs, who had reportedly offered him $1.3 million for three years (around $433k per year), and were ultimately unable to keep him at the Whitten Oval.

                      He didn?t really want to go. I think he asked for a little bit more, about $30,000 a year or something/
                      What a bloody stuff up - $30k

                      Originally posted by azabob

                      ?There were a few bad decisions being made at that particular time, Jarrod Harbrow was another.
                      Verifies what I said on WOOF at the time
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                      • bulldogtragic
                        The List Manager
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 34316

                        Re: Following our exes...................

                        Originally posted by bornadog
                        What a bloody stuff up - $30k



                        Verifies what I said on WOOF at the time
                        Bloody Fantasia!
                        Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                        • macca
                          Coaching Staff
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 2352

                          Re: Following our exes...................

                          Originally posted by bornadog
                          What a bloody stuff up - $30k



                          Verifies what I said on WOOF at the time
                          I can't believe we lost Ward for 30 K a year. He is exactly the type of player we need now. In hindsight, if he stayed and got a premiership in 2016, that would have been worth it.
                          Consistent stuff up to also lose Harbrow and some other players.

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                          • Grantysghost
                            Bouncing Strong
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 18882

                            Re: Following our exes...................

                            This sounds ominous though :

                            ?All of a sudden GWS, whether his manager mentioned something to GWS, came over the top and blew everything out of the park

                            Is 30k enough for Cal to be pissed off enough to leave? Something doesn't add up here.
                            BT COME BACK!​

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                            • Bornadog
                              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 66096

                              Re: Following our exes...................

                              Originally posted by Grantysghost
                              This sounds ominous though :

                              ?All of a sudden GWS, whether his manager mentioned something to GWS, came over the top and blew everything out of the park

                              Is 30k enough for Cal to be pissed off enough to leave? Something doesn't add up here.
                              We offered 433k then added another 30k. GWS offered him $800k
                              FFC: Established 1883

                              Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                              • Grantysghost
                                Bouncing Strong
                                • Apr 2010
                                • 18882

                                Re: Following our exes...................

                                Originally posted by bornadog
                                We offered 433k then added another 30k. GWS offered him $800k
                                Yeah, that's by point. No chance.

                                I hear the story is he would have stayed for 465k.

                                Seems odd on every level.

                                Don't doubt the Eade/BT story. I just find it all insane!

                                I guess the time between our initial offer and theirs may make it clearer to me. With Sheedy involved i think Cal was probably on the radar of GWS.

                                Crazy period.

                                Fkn sheedy

                                Contract negotiations with the Bulldogs were fraught. The club preyed, in part, on his loyalty. But the offer over five years was scarcely half of the reported $4 million over five seasons Ward was offered to head north to join a club considered the AFL’s greatest gamble.

                                A car ride through Sydney with league legend Kevin Sheedy, who coached the inaugural Giants, helped to seal the deal as he considered his future in footy aged just 21.
                                BT COME BACK!​

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