Following our exes...................

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  • Hotdog60
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Aug 2009
    • 5763

    Re: Following our exes...................

    Originally posted by jazzadogs
    Yeh it feels like the job will go to a Watters/McCartney/Teague who will become the fall guy when they don't get instant improvement.

    I thought it was weird, like BAD, that they didn't mention his coaching stint at the dogs.
    Especially that he had a guiding hand to the finals I always felt he was the bad cop opposed to Bevo's good cop.
    Don't piss off old people
    The older we get the less "LIFE IN PRISON" is a deterrent...

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    • soupman
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Nov 2007
      • 5075

      Re: Following our exes...................

      Originally posted by jazzadogs
      Yeh it feels like the job will go to a Watters/McCartney/Teague who will become the fall guy when they don't get instant improvement.
      Yes, however for someone like Montgomery who has been overlooked a few times, is maybe already past the age where he can be an "up and coming" coach, isn't someone who could get a job on name alone (like say Hird) nor is the natural successor anywhere, at some point you've just got to take what you can get and run with it.

      The Eagles job might be a poisoned chalice, but maybe take it expecting 2 years on substantially better pay, with the possibility thatit might actually go well, but if it doesn't it sets you up better for a Director of Football type gig down the track.

      I mean if Monty doesn't get this he maybe gets deep into one more apllication process before he is not considered anymore?
      I should leave it alone but you're not right

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      • Bornadog
        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
        • Jan 2007
        • 65570

        Re: Following our exes...................

        Originally posted by soupman
        Yes, however for someone like Montgomery who has been overlooked a few times, is maybe already past the age where he can be an "up and coming" coach, isn't someone who could get a job on name alone (like say Hird) nor is the natural successor anywhere, at some point you've just got to take what you can get and run with it.

        The Eagles job might be a poisoned chalice, but maybe take it expecting 2 years on substantially better pay, with the possibility thatit might actually go well, but if it doesn't it sets you up better for a Director of Football type gig down the track.

        I mean if Monty doesn't get this he maybe gets deep into one more application process before he is not considered anymore?
        Do you think Gia is almost at this stage as well
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        Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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        • GVGjr
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 43869

          Re: Following our exes...................

          Monty apparently has an offer from the Crows as an assistant as well so he can return to SA and be with the family.
          The coaching merry-go-round speculation normally ramps up in August.
          Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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          • my plums
            Rookie List
            • Aug 2022
            • 118

            Re: Following our exes...................

            You have to take the senior gig when its available I think. There is only 18 positions after all.

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            • GVGjr
              Moderator
              • Nov 2006
              • 43869

              Re: Following our exes...................

              Originally posted by mjp
              If he sees things well then maybe DON'T coach West Coast?

              The media that will be required/demanded of whoever gets this job will be outrageous...you only get one shot at it - I'm not sure I would be making a play for the WC job.
              Most long term assistants who really harbor ambitions of being the senior coach can't afford to be picky but I do think there is a chance an interim coach is needed at West Coast for the short term.
              All of the coaches will need to do their due diligence because list wise they aren't in great shape.
              Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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              • Axe Man
                Hall of Fame
                • Nov 2008
                • 10860

                Re: Following our exes...................

                Originally posted by bornadog
                Do you think Gia is almost at this stage as well
                Gia is 9 years younger, I think he's got more time up his sleeve than Monty.

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 65570

                  Re: Following our exes...................

                  Originally posted by Axe Man
                  Gia is 9 years younger, I think he's got more time up his sleeve than Monty.
                  It's more the fact he has tried so many times to get a senior role, and he keeps missing.
                  FFC: Established 1883

                  Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                  • ledge
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 14027

                    Re: Following our exes...................

                    Originally posted by mjp
                    If he sees things well then maybe DON'T coach West Coast?

                    The media that will be required/demanded of whoever gets this job will be outrageous...you only get one shot at it - I'm not sure I would be making a play for the WC job.
                    Well it’s the best place for a new coach to start . You can only go up.
                    Bring back the biff

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                    • jeemak
                      Bulldog Legend
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 21368

                      Re: Following our exes...................

                      Monty seems to me like Brian Royal level cannon fodder in this process, albeit more credentialed from his playing days in terms of being a premiership player - but definitely not on talent (and to be fair, his coaching days).

                      Always mentioned, never picked.

                      In his favour is he's still reasonably young, so perhaps the Dickhead and his merry men anti-Beveridge media cabal can get his Port Adelaide chemo's ****ing with your head mate's foot in the door.

                      Everyone ties Monty to our success in 2016, but the biggest correlation with performance I can see in that year was what happened after he left. Nobody ever really talks about that. They just focus on that one week off we had prior to finals where we got all our players back.......and the Salty Dog, of course.
                      TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                      • jeemak
                        Bulldog Legend
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 21368

                        Re: Following our exes...................

                        Onto that sledge:

                        Montgomery is believed to have told Ramanauskas: "The chemo's been f- - - - - - with your head, you wanker,".


                        A simple as it sounds, there's so many things people have wrong with them that they CAN change to enable you to avoid picking on them for things they CAN'T, when you're ripping into them.

                        He just seems old school to me.
                        TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                        • jazzadogs
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 5431

                          Re: Following our exes...................

                          Originally posted by jeemak
                          Onto that sledge:

                          Montgomery is believed to have told Ramanauskas: "The chemo's been f- - - - - - with your head, you wanker,".


                          A simple as it sounds, there's so many things people have wrong with them that they CAN change to enable you to avoid picking on them for things they CAN'T, when you're ripping into them.

                          He just seems old school to me.
                          20 years ago...you'd hope he's grown a bit since then.

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                          • mjp
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 7238

                            Re: Following our exes...................

                            Originally posted by my plums
                            You have to take the senior gig when its available I think. There is only 18 positions after all.
                            Yeah - but if you take the "wrong" one, that's it.

                            Clubs don't appoint bad coaches. But not all coaches are "BUILT" for the situation they end up in.

                            Macrae has done remarkably well at Collingwood - just as Bevo did when he took over the 'Dogs. Both won a flag in 2 years.

                            BUT: If the roles had been reversed, would it have worked...
                            What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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                            • Grantysghost
                              Bouncing Strong
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 18709

                              Re: Following our exes...................

                              Look who turns up in the Freo retro gear photos!

                              BT COME BACK!​

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                              • josie
                                Coaching Staff
                                • Oct 2012
                                • 4323

                                Re: Following our exes...................

                                Originally posted by Grantysghost
                                Look who turns up in the Freo retro gear photos!

                                Daniel Bandy? I thought he was ok for us, but if a whipping boy IIRC. Guessing his style would translate well to today’s game too.
                                Josie :)

                                Our day will come
                                And we'll have everything.
                                We'll share the joy
                                Just like '54 again.

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