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  • Bulldog Revolution
    Coaching Staff
    • Dec 2006
    • 3922

    Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

    Originally posted by Axe Man
    As mentioned in that article and elsewhere Liam Henry may be on the move - surely a talented young small forward should pique our interest?
    Hes a genuine small forward isnt he? Crumbs, tackles etc - its a glaring gap on our list

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    • GVGjr
      Moderator
      • Nov 2006
      • 43892

      Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

      Originally posted by Bulldog Revolution
      Hes a genuine small forward isnt he? Crumbs, tackles etc - its a glaring gap on our list
      Yes, he's very much a forward who got 2 or 3 small forwards in front of him at Fremantle. He was a top 10 pick so they won't give him away without getting a suitable return.
      Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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      • jazzadogs
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Oct 2008
        • 5449

        Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

        Liam Henry couldn't get a game for Freo this year, with Schultz, Walters and Switkowski filling the small forward spots. When he did play he was tried on a wing with minimal effect.

        Jeremy Sharp from GC apparently has interest from Melbourne clubs. He would fit our needs for a hard running wing who can find the ball. One on Dew's naughty list who doesn't get games, like Brodie, Wright, Lyons etc.

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        • GVGjr
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 43892

          Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

          Originally posted by jazzadogs
          Liam Henry couldn't get a game for Freo this year, with Schultz, Walters and Switkowski filling the small forward spots. When he did play he was tried on a wing with minimal effect.

          Jeremy Sharp from GC apparently has interest from Melbourne clubs. He would fit our needs for a hard running wing who can find the ball. One on Dew's naughty list who doesn't get games, like Brodie, Wright, Lyons etc.
          Fremantle are apparently very keen to get Sharp to head back to the west but as you pointed out he could also be a nice addition for us.
          In 2021 he had back to back 30 possession games but seemingly on the outer this year.
          Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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          • Happy Days
            Hall of Fame
            • May 2008
            • 10013

            Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

            Okay so I’ve been meaning to say this for a couple of weeks but it’s only getting truer with each passing day.

            We all can likely in some form agree that there are two critical holes in our list that have been shown out in our worst losses over and over again - KPD 1 and the ruck, whether your stance is we need support for Tim or Tim to be the support.

            There are two quality and available options out there to fill both, or at least some form of these positions, both readily available and possibly even so at some sort of initial or salary cost discount - Logue and Grundy.

            So what do we know.

            We know that the Pies, both on previous conduct and current rumour, would take a piece of Grundy’s salary if they are fairly compensated at the trade table. We also know that Melbourne is a toxic shithole of a club and Grundy seems to be a pretty vibes-based guy.

            We know that the leading bid for Logue is 4x$650k, which doesn’t seem that intimidating and I would like to believe if offered to him by the well-run, generally successful and stocked with A-grade talent Western Bulldogs would trump any offer from lowly, reviled, pitiful North Melbourne.

            We know that between JJ leaving, Dunkley likely moving to Brisbane to be even further away from his girlfriend and closer to his sister which still isn’t at all weird, and the alleged offer to Lobb that we probably have the money and draft capital to accomodate both of the above guys.

            So can anyone please explain to me why on earth we aren’t just doing these deals instead of wasting our time with lesser versions of the same types of players? Are we afraid of becoming too good? Afraid of agitating a certain ruckman who has spewed it in no less than 3 consecutive years of finals losses? Am I just crazy for expecting cogent moves out of a club infected with intergenerational key forward top up trauma? What is it. It’s gotta be something other than what it’s being said to be on its face (that Lobb/Jones/Rowe will help us more than Grundy and Logue) because that would just be stupid.
            - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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            • The Bulldogs Bite
              Hall of Fame
              • Dec 2006
              • 11046

              Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

              Has Henry shown anything?

              I don't watch Freo a lot but he's never struck me as a player who would make it. Lightly framed, avoids contact...

              Tucker? Initially it wouldn't be on my agenda, but we really do need some senior support given our depth has taken a real hit in recent years.

              I'd like to add a couple of that nature if we can.
              W00F!

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              • The Bulldogs Bite
                Hall of Fame
                • Dec 2006
                • 11046

                Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

                Originally posted by Happy Days
                Okay so I’ve been meaning to say this for a couple of weeks but it’s only getting truer with each passing day.

                We all can likely in some form agree that there are two critical holes in our list that have been shown out in our worst losses over and over again - KPD 1 and the ruck, whether your stance is we need support for Tim or Tim to be the support.

                There are two quality and available options out there to fill both, or at least some form of these positions, both readily available and possibly even so at some sort of initial or salary cost discount - Logue and Grundy.

                So what do we know.

                We know that the Pies, both on previous conduct and current rumour, would take a piece of Grundy’s salary if they are fairly compensated at the trade table. We also know that Melbourne is a toxic shithole of a club and Grundy seems to be a pretty vibes-based guy.

                We know that the leading bid for Logue is 4x$650k, which doesn’t seem that intimidating and I would like to believe if offered to him by the well-run, generally successful and stocked with A-grade talent Western Bulldogs would trump any offer from lowly, reviled, pitiful North Melbourne.

                We know that between JJ leaving, Dunkley likely moving to Brisbane to be even further away from his girlfriend and closer to his sister which still isn’t at all weird, and the alleged offer to Lobb that we probably have the money and draft capital to accomodate both of the above guys.

                So can anyone please explain to me why on earth we aren’t just doing these deals instead of wasting our time with lesser versions of the same types of players? Are we afraid of becoming too good? Afraid of agitating a certain ruckman who has spewed it in no less than 3 consecutive years of finals losses? Am I just crazy for expecting cogent moves out of a club infected with intergenerational key forward top up trauma? What is it. It’s gotta be something other than what it’s being said to be on its face (that Lobb/Jones/Rowe will help us more than Grundy and Logue) because that would just be stupid.
                It's a good point.

                Logue isn't necessarily a big key defender but he would be an upgrade on the likes of Keath/Cordy/TOB for that second/third role.

                Jones and Logue would be nice additions to our back half given they're both good athletes. Gardy isn't too bad either. Logue is also a good age. Keath/Cordy are horrendously slow and were caught out on the lead/in open space with regularity.

                Clearly we must not rate Logue, which, based on our recent recruiting (TOB, McComb) is a little strange.

                That or we have someone else in our sights?

                We live in hope.
                W00F!

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 65597

                  Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

                  Originally posted by Happy Days
                  Dunkley likely moving to Brisbane to be even further away from his girlfriend and closer to his sister which still isn’t at all weird,
                  His Girlfriends family are from QLD, so it makes sense.
                  FFC: Established 1883

                  Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                  • Axe Man
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 10866

                    Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

                    Originally posted by bornadog
                    His Girlfriends family are from QLD, so it makes sense.
                    That makes about as much sense as me moving to Adelaide because my wife's family are there whilst my wife stays here.

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                    • Testekill
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jan 2015
                      • 2327

                      Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

                      I'd be keen on Jeremy Sharp as a major target and then Tucker as moneyball depth. Sharp would be our first choice wing and Tucker would probably be an improvement on Hunter.

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                      • Dancin' Douggy
                        WOOF Member
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 2877

                        Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

                        Originally posted by Happy Days
                        Okay so I’ve been meaning to say this for a couple of weeks but it’s only getting truer with each passing day.

                        We all can likely in some form agree that there are two critical holes in our list that have been shown out in our worst losses over and over again - KPD 1 and the ruck, whether your stance is we need support for Tim or Tim to be the support.

                        There are two quality and available options out there to fill both, or at least some form of these positions, both readily available and possibly even so at some sort of initial or salary cost discount - Logue and Grundy.

                        So what do we know.

                        We know that the Pies, both on previous conduct and current rumour, would take a piece of Grundy’s salary if they are fairly compensated at the trade table. We also know that Melbourne is a toxic shithole of a club and Grundy seems to be a pretty vibes-based guy.

                        We know that the leading bid for Logue is 4x$650k, which doesn’t seem that intimidating and I would like to believe if offered to him by the well-run, generally successful and stocked with A-grade talent Western Bulldogs would trump any offer from lowly, reviled, pitiful North Melbourne.

                        We know that between JJ leaving, Dunkley likely moving to Brisbane to be even further away from his girlfriend and closer to his sister which still isn’t at all weird, and the alleged offer to Lobb that we probably have the money and draft capital to accomodate both of the above guys.

                        So can anyone please explain to me why on earth we aren’t just doing these deals instead of wasting our time with lesser versions of the same types of players? Are we afraid of becoming too good? Afraid of agitating a certain ruckman who has spewed it in no less than 3 consecutive years of finals losses? Am I just crazy for expecting cogent moves out of a club infected with intergenerational key forward top up trauma? What is it. It’s gotta be something other than what it’s being said to be on its face (that Lobb/Jones/Rowe will help us more than Grundy and Logue) because that would just be stupid.
                        why on earth chase Lobb if grundy is available. Unbelievable.

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                        • Bornadog
                          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 65597

                          Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

                          Originally posted by Axe Man
                          That makes about as much sense as me moving to Adelaide because my wife's family are there whilst my wife stays here.
                          The netball season is not long. This year was from 26 March to 3 July. The rest of the season she probably lives in QLD, or will do if Dunkley moves there.
                          FFC: Established 1883

                          Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                          • Mofra
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 14795

                            Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

                            Originally posted by jazzadogs
                            Liam Henry couldn't get a game for Freo this year, with Schultz, Walters and Switkowski filling the small forward spots. When he did play he was tried on a wing with minimal effect.

                            Jeremy Sharp from GC apparently has interest from Melbourne clubs. He would fit our needs for a hard running wing who can find the ball. One on Dew's naughty list who doesn't get games, like Brodie, Wright, Lyons etc.
                            Wasn't the knock on Sharp in his draft year that he can be a little 'selfish'?
                            Might just be BF draft-watcher group think
                            Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                            • Axe Man
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 10866

                              Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

                              Originally posted by bornadog
                              The netball season is not long. This year was from 26 March to 3 July. The rest of the season she probably lives in QLD, or will do if Dunkley moves there.
                              So what you are saying is she could easily live in Melbourne the rest of the year then? I don't buy that any move is related to where his girlfriend is.

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                              • The Bulldogs Bite
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Dec 2006
                                • 11046

                                Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

                                Jackson officially requests a trade to WA - not to Freo or WCE specifically.

                                Melbourne will love this. Potentially makes them a far better side if they land Grundy AND get x2 first round picks.

                                Jackson is a talent but not worth x2 first rounders nor 900K.

                                I'm annoyed that Melbourne actually benefit from this.
                                W00F!

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