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  • bulldogsthru&thru
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • May 2011
    • 7630

    Re: LOL Aints

    Originally posted by bornadog
    The structure was already there under Macca, it just that he wasn't a senior coach.

    You may have noticed we didn't really change the assistant coaches in the first few years of Bevo. We lost Montgomery because he was too political, but most of the old Geelong boys stayed as did some of the others. The administration was also good, lead by Peter. So Bevo waltzed in and pulled the footy department together to create his team.
    So did we have a fairly steady club when Bevo took the reigns and in essence it was purely poor onfield performance and coaching when McCartney was in charge? I honestly can't remember.

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    • Bornadog
      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
      • Jan 2007
      • 65597

      Re: LOL Aints

      Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
      So did we have a fairly steady club when Bevo took the reigns and in essence it was purely poor onfield performance and coaching when McCartney was in charge? I honestly can't remember.
      In my opinion yes. Ok we lost captain and coach, but everything else was in place.
      FFC: Established 1883

      Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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      • jeemak
        Bulldog Legend
        • Oct 2010
        • 21411

        Re: LOL Aints

        Originally posted by bornadog
        In my opinion yes. Ok we lost captain and coach, but everything else was in place.
        We lost a couple of prima donna players as well, which didn't hurt.
        TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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        • Dogs 24/7
          Senior Player
          • Sep 2007
          • 1163

          Re: LOL Aints

          Originally posted by Twodogs
          Drop them off at the Yarraville nets and we'll get the crew together.
          Robert Walls as the referee?

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          • EasternWest
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Aug 2009
            • 9924

            Re: LOL Aints

            Originally posted by Sedat
            City Hall operates exactly like a mediocre, bloated, inefficient government beurocracy, and is the breeding ground for talentless people who would not last one day in real private enterprise. It should be no surprise whatsoever that Lethers is just the latest in the long line of talentless grifters that made their initial name at AFL HQ.

            A simple rule of thumb for our HR dept is to never hire anyone with AFL HQ experience.
            There are few things I love more on this board than a solid Sedat rant.

            I want them mainlined into my eyeballs.
            "It's over. It's all over."

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            • The Underdog
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Aug 2007
              • 6743

              Re: LOL Aints

              Originally posted by EasternWest
              There are few things I love more on this board than a solid Sedat rant.

              I want them mainlined into my eyeballs.
              Aside from the premise that mediocre people can’t thrive in private companies, he makes many good points.
              Park that car
              Drop that phone
              Sleep on the floor
              Dream about me

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              • EasternWest
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Aug 2009
                • 9924

                Re: LOL Aints

                Originally posted by The Underdog
                Aside from the premise that mediocre people can’t thrive in private companies, he makes many good points.
                Yeah it's been my experience mediocre people find a way to thrive in all environments.
                "It's over. It's all over."

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                • The Underdog
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 6743

                  Re: LOL Aints

                  Originally posted by EasternWest
                  Yeah it's been my experience mediocre people find a way to thrive in all environments.
                  I’ve worked in private enterprise and local government and done ok in both.
                  Park that car
                  Drop that phone
                  Sleep on the floor
                  Dream about me

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                  • Happy Days
                    Hall of Fame
                    • May 2008
                    • 10013

                    Re: LOL Aints

                    Originally posted by EasternWest
                    Yeah it's been my experience mediocre people find a way to thrive in all environments.
                    Woah look at that it’s me.
                    - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                    • Daughter of the West
                      WOOF Member
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 918

                      Re: LOL Aints

                      I was looking for something else entirely, but stumbled across this instead. Food for thought Aints...



                      Essentially, coaches appear to receive similar training, face similar information sets, and ultimately make similar decisions. The results – perhaps not surprising when you consider these similarities – are that outcomes with different coaches are quite similar.

                      And that means, if it costs a small fortune to fire your coach – and often it does – then a team is probably better off just keeping who they have on the sideline. Yes, this may not make the fans of the losers very happy today. But it doesn’t make sense for universities to make decisions that cost the school money and don’t systematically change the outcomes we see on the field.
                      Wake me up when we get to heaven, let me sleep if we're going to hell

                      Good luck, for your sake I hope heaven and hell are really there, but I wouldn't hold my breath

                      And we all found heaven - 2016 Premiers!

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                      • EasternWest
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 9924

                        Re: LOL Aints

                        Originally posted by The Underdog
                        I’ve worked in private enterprise and local government and done ok in both.
                        Is some going to tell him? I don't want to be the one.
                        "It's over. It's all over."

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                        • EasternWest
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 9924

                          Re: LOL Aints

                          Originally posted by Happy Days
                          Woah look at that it’s me.
                          No you're beautiful. A shining star.
                          "It's over. It's all over."

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                          • hujsh
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 11727

                            Re: LOL Aints

                            Originally posted by Happy Days
                            Woah look at that it’s me.
                            [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                            • The Underdog
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 6743

                              Re: LOL Aints

                              Originally posted by EasternWest
                              Is some going to tell him? I don't want to be the one.
                              Dare to be average, my friend, dare to be average.
                              Park that car
                              Drop that phone
                              Sleep on the floor
                              Dream about me

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                              • mjp
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 7240

                                Re: LOL Aints

                                Originally posted by Daughter of the West
                                I was looking for something else entirely, but stumbled across this instead. Food for thought Aints...

                                https://freakonomics.com/2012/12/is-...ly-the-answer/
                                So...this isn't wrong.

                                Most coaches are pretty competent at TEACHING one of two things:

                                1/. Skill fundamentals.
                                2/. Match day structures.

                                The game-style to tie the two together you will see a fair bit of variance in the way individuals going about the teaching process - some players flourish or flounder based on how they click with the game-style teaching of their coach...let's face it, trust is primarily built at training and if you can't do it on the track, well, you wont get the chance to do it in a game.

                                All of that said:
                                - Whether your focus is teaching skills/skill ex or structures, those coaches who 'make a difference' are those who are able to bring a unique element of play to their side. Easy examples right now are McRae's 'roll the dice' kick through the corridor attacking system that Collingwood used this season. Buckley is a good coach and got Collingwood within a goal of a premiership, HOWEVER McRae brought an attacking system AND won buy-in from the players...hey ho, let's go.

                                Lyon is one of those coaches. He has a pretty unique defensive system and the Saints just became really (really) hard to score against. Will they play exciting footy? Probs not. But they will keep the oppo to 8 goals, be in it every week and win more than they lose. The 'Stand' rule is going to cause him some issues - hell, the "back to the 9m" rule will cause him some issues, but he has a defensive plan and knows how to teach it. If you believe the stories, he taught the 05/06 Swans to defend as well so he's got a LOT of experience in doing it...they will be hard to score against which makes them immediately harder to beat.
                                What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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