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  • JanLorMill
    Senior Player
    • Feb 2023
    • 1551

    Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

    Originally posted by bornadog
    Absolute madness to even think of getting rid of Tim - I can't believe people even think it.
    Grundy at the time was way better than English is now. Madness by Collingwood.

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    • Bornadog
      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
      • Jan 2007
      • 65597

      Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

      Originally posted by JanLorMill
      Grundy at the time was way better than English is now. Madness by Collingwood.
      Yes madness for being in deep shit with salary cap
      FFC: Established 1883

      Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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      • kruder
        Coaching Staff
        • May 2011
        • 3722

        Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

        Originally posted by jeemak
        I guess he's worth a second round pick.
        Billings will be cheap I reckon 3rd at best. I think he is better than Baker and Scott if we think his body is right.

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        • GVGjr
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 43897

          Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

          Originally posted by kruder
          Billings will be cheap I reckon 3rd at best. I think he is better than Baker and Scott if we think his body is right.
          A 3rd rounder is about right but we don't have one this year so it would have to be a future one.

          I don't think we need him but clubs will likely ask the question.
          Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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          • SquirrelGrip
            Senior Player
            • Oct 2007
            • 1452

            Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

            Originally posted by kruder
            Billings will be cheap I reckon 3rd at best. I think he is better than Baker and Scott if we think his body is right.
            The more of Billings salary a team is prepared to pay, the cheaper he will be.
            "I'll give him a hug before the first bounce and then I'll run into my pack and give them orders to rip him apart."

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            • Axe Man
              Hall of Fame
              • Nov 2008
              • 10872

              Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

              Originally posted by JanLorMill
              Grundy at the time was way better than English is now. Madness by Collingwood.
              2022 Grundy was way better than 2023 English? Couldn't disagree more.

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              • Axe Man
                Hall of Fame
                • Nov 2008
                • 10872

                Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                Originally posted by EasternWest
                Axe Man
                I'm worth 5 Jack Billings!

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                • EasternWest
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 9927

                  Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                  Originally posted by Axe Man
                  I'm worth 5 Jack Billings!
                  The word jack is certainly in your value.
                  "It's over. It's all over."

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                  • Sedat
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 11047

                    Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                    Originally posted by bornadog
                    Absolute madness to even think of getting rid of Tim - I can't believe people even think it.
                    Is English as AA 1st ruck going to help us win a premiership? Jury is out - what is fact is that his AA season couldn't even get us in the top 8 this year (not his fault). That's not to say anything about having him remain on a multi-year contract worth well over $1 million a season.

                    It is foolish and irresponsible not to consider the size/length of the salary and the specific role when managing current and future list and cap demands.

                    Grundy actually proves the point about the sky not falling in if English and the club decide to part ways for whatever reason - he was the best ruckman in the game (significantly better than English in 2023) but couldn't help his team to win a flag. As soon as he and his enormous salary was replaced (with a Clydesdale ruck on the cheap who competes hard, and an American who has many and varied flaws), they have won 39 out of 52 games en route to a premiership after finishing bottom 4 only 2 years ago.
                    "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                    • Bullies
                      Senior Player
                      • Sep 2014
                      • 1802

                      Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                      Originally posted by macca
                      Are there rumours that Essendon are going to rise up from the ashes and actually win a final next year ?

                      Is Goldstein going there for potential or for more years ? I don't get it.
                      I believe he has been offered a role after this year in a Development role

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                      • Bornadog
                        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 65597

                        Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                        Originally posted by Sedat
                        Grundy actually proves the point about the sky not falling in if English and the club decide to part ways for whatever reason - he was the best ruckman in the game (significantly better than English in 2023).
                        No he wasn't. Tim's numbers stack up to Grundy at the same age, if not better.

                        Player Statistics Comparison
                        Brodie Grundy Name Timothy English
                        Melbourne Demons Team Western Bulldogs
                        Ruck Position Ruck
                        194 Career Games 108
                        Sturt Origin South Fremantle
                        April 15, 1994 Date of Birth August 10, 1997
                        Turned 26 in 2020 Age 26yr 1mth
                        203cm Height 207cm
                        104kg Weight 103kg
                        2012 National Draft Last Drafted In 2016 National Draft
                        Round 1, Pick #18 Last Draft Position Round 1, Pick #19
                        Collingwood Magpies Last Drafted By Western Bulldogs
                        2020 Stats for Season 2023
                        19 Games 23
                        5.5 Kicks 11.2
                        8.8 Handballs 7.9
                        14.4 Disposals 19.1
                        3.0 Marks 6.3
                        0.2 Goals 0.7
                        0.2 Behinds 0.2
                        3.6 Tackles 4.3
                        31.4 Hitouts 31.2
                        1.9 Inside 50s 3.2
                        0.3 Goal Assists 0.3
                        2.3 Frees For 1.8
                        1.5 Frees Against 1.5
                        8.9 Contested Possessions 9.2
                        5.8 Uncontested Possessions 11.0
                        10.6 Effective Disposals 13.9
                        73.6% Disposal Efficiency % 72.8%
                        2.5 Clangers 3.6
                        1.1 Contested Marks 1.3
                        0.3 Marks Inside 50 0.6
                        3.2 Clearances 3.3
                        0.7 Rebound 50s 1.9
                        2.2 One Percenters 4.3
                        0.1 Bounces 0.3
                        84.5 Time On Ground % 85.9
                        0.8 Centre Clearances 1.2
                        2.4 Stoppage Clearances 2.1
                        3.3 Score Involvements 5.3
                        99.8 Metres Gained 255.0
                        1.8 Turnovers 3.3
                        1.9 Intercepts 4.3
                        0.5 Tackles Inside 50 0.4
                        87.9 AFL Fantasy Score 118.7
                        118.4 Supercoach Score 128.0
                        FFC: Established 1883

                        Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                        • hujsh
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 11732

                          Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                          Originally posted by bornadog
                          No he wasn't. Tim's numbers stack up to Grundy at the same age, if not better.
                          Don't think anyone disputes that Tim is a great pick for the supercoach team. More the impact he has on games
                          [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                          • Bornadog
                            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 65597

                            Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                            Originally posted by hujsh
                            Don't think anyone disputes that Tim is a great pick for the supercoach team. More the impact he has on games
                            Supercoach? I don't even look at Supercoach
                            FFC: Established 1883

                            Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                            • hujsh
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Nov 2007
                              • 11732

                              Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                              Originally posted by bornadog
                              Supercoach? I don't even look at Supercoach
                              I don't think that really matters to the general point being made.
                              [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                              • angelopetraglia
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 6683

                                Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                                "My feeling is the Western Bulldogs are definitely interested in Nick Coffield. St Kilda have an offer to him, only one year at this point. He might be on the move if another team offers him multiple years."

                                - Josh Gabelich

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