Early Trade Rumours 2023

[Grantysghost]

Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

My understanding is that he and J.McCartney did not get along but McCartney left.

I also heard that Dalrymple felt he didn't get enough credit for our 2016 success and the last straw was when the coach made a captains call and selected Billy Gowers.

I'm not sure if he put his hand up for Sam Powers job and didn't get it. Someone else maybe able to shed light on that.

Billy was leading goal kicker so Bevo was right.

[angelopetraglia]

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Billy was leading goal kicker so Bevo was right.

Billy Gowers. The gap between his best and worst was huge. At one moment he looked like he could be anything. The next moment, you were lamenting how an AFL footballer could ever do something so bad. An enigma.

[bulldogsthru&thru]

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If true, that was a great coaches call…

I wonder who Dal wanted.

[bulldogtragic]

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Billy was leading goal kicker so Bevo was right.

Gowers kicked 26 goals. Delisted two years later. Who did SD want? Was it Brodie Mihocheck who went a few picks later?

Would you prefer those amazing 26 goals or SD?

[Bornadog]

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If true, that was a great coaches call…

If he left just for that then he is a big sook. Surely there were other issues??

I thought he and Jason Macartney didn't get along

[angelopetraglia]

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Gowers kicked 26 goals. Delisted two years later. Who did SD want? Was it Brodie Mihocheck who went a few picks later?

Would you prefer those amazing 26 goals or SD?

It is a valid point.

But Brodie Mihocheck might have been a bust in our environment. I never buy if we took this player look what might have been. How does the club environment, development, coaching and the opportunites differ and how does that impact what a player ends up becoming?

[bulldogsthru&thru]

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It is a valid point.

But Brodie Mihocheck might have been a bust in our environment. I never buy if we took this player look what might have been. How does the club environment, development, coaching and the opportunites differ and how does that impact what a player ends up becoming?

It's true. Wonder what Bont would have been if the saints took him. Or Billings if saints didn't take him.

[bulldogtragic]

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If he left just for that then he is a big sook. Surely there were other issues??

I thought he and Jason Macartney didn't get along

I thought there was some friction with JMac too from memory. JMac was crap at his job, so would?ve preferred to prioritise SD and keep Bevo left to deal with coaching decisions.

The decision by Grant to force through the Schache deal never really got the scrutiny it deserved if we are going back to that era. Grant forced that through for the picks used on Sam Taylor, Tom De Koning & Noah Balta. For pick 75+ this year back for trading Schache out last year. I don?t imagine Balme or Wright making calls that horribly bad.

[bulldogtragic]

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It is a valid point.

But Brodie Mihocheck might have been a bust in our environment. I never buy if we took this player look what might have been. How does the club environment, development, coaching and the opportunites differ and how does that impact what a player ends up becoming?

Doesn’t matter. One got delisted not long after recruited and one is a premiership player and SD is doing the same job but at Sydney. All hypothetical.

[Mofra]

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Gowers kicked 26 goals. Delisted two years later. Who did SD want? Was it Brodie Mihocheck who went a few picks later?

Would you prefer those amazing 26 goals or SD?

IIRC Dal wanted an overager, a HB killing it in the VFL. Didn't end up on a list. The name was mentioned at the time

[Bornadog]

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Doesn’t matter. One got delisted not long after recruited and one is a premiership player and SD is doing the same job but at Sydney. All hypothetical.

[MrMahatma]

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We announced to the world that we conducted a thorough internal review 12 months ago, then we arrogantly didn't bother releasing the findings to the fans and general public other than to get ourselves a name senior assistant (Lade). When we do even worse in 2023, our response is to announce to the world (even louder this time) that we will conduct a thorough internal review, seemingly with the goal of getting ourselves a name senior assistant.

Is it possible that we've made enough room for a few assistant coaches that will make a difference? And a new head of high performance?

Outside of sacking Bevo, what else should the club have done so far this off season? Until the replacement assistants are in, and until we see how the coaching crew are structured and performed, it's probably a little early to judge the actions of post-season 2023, isn't it?

I would add that, while optimistic, I'm also nervous that we don't have coaches appointed. The sooner the team is appointed and settled, the better off we'll be.

[lemmon]

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Semi-serious thought, because it's already a thing in other sports (eg: the NHL), but if clubs are given the ability to trade without player consent you might offset that by permitting players to negotiate no-movement clauses in their contracts, or limited-movement clauses.

Get this man a job at AFL House.

[Topdog]

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So based on all that you don't think we are a serious club, because that is what you are saying.

Based on all that do you think we are currently a serious club? It all feels like amateur hour at the moment.

[Dry Rot]

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Who already reviewed themselves 12 months earlier and survived that review as well.

I have managed to set myself up as judge and jury for all my future criminal cases.