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  • Sedat
    Hall of Fame
    • Sep 2007
    • 11056

    Re: Tribunal / suspensions 2024

    At least Powell doesn't play for the Swans. Would have been totes awks if he was wearing a Qatar Airways sponsored jumper at the time of his homophobic comment.
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    • jazzadogs
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Oct 2008
      • 5472

      Re: Tribunal / suspensions 2024

      Originally posted by The bulldog tragician
      Personally losing patience with the idea that “education” is the panacea. This is a few weeks after the Finlayson thing made huge headlines. A 24yo in the system a few years, who has come of age since same sex marriage was legalised, and a homophobic slur is still a go-to insult..he needs educating that it’s not ok?
      I see the frustration and completely agree that education shouldn't be needed...but that is a societal problem as much as an AFL problem. There are lots of areas that society, and in particular straight white men, need to be better at - but that 24yo young man might have a father, uncle, coach who thinks that c********r is a perfectly reasonable thing to call someone else. When that has been your whole life, it would be hard to change, and you would need education and support to see the error (with a high likelihood that he will instead choose to believe that he is the victim and listen to more Andrew Tate).

      It's a shitty world we're living in, where a lot of people still see others as less than them.

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      • The bulldog tragician
        Senior Player
        • Apr 2013
        • 1954

        Re: Tribunal / suspensions 2024

        Originally posted by jazzadogs
        I see the frustration and completely agree that education shouldn't be needed...but that is a societal problem as much as an AFL problem. There are lots of areas that society, and in particular straight white men, need to be better at - but that 24yo young man might have a father, uncle, coach who thinks that c********r is a perfectly reasonable thing to call someone else. When that has been your whole life, it would be hard to change, and you would need education and support to see the error (with a high likelihood that he will instead choose to believe that he is the victim and listen to more Andrew Tate).

        It's a shitty world we're living in, where a lot of people still see others as less than them.
        Yes I agree. The persistence of family violence despite well meaning emphases on “respect” tells us that these things run deep. I guess I just get annoyed when it’s like “ education” is going to introduce some new concept that has never before been discussed or considered.
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        • Uninformed
          Draftee
          • Jan 2023
          • 736

          Re: Tribunal / suspensions 2024

          Originally posted by The bulldog tragician
          Yes I agree. The persistence of family violence despite well meaning emphases on “respect” tells us that these things run deep. I guess I just get annoyed when it’s like “ education” is going to introduce some new concept that has never before been discussed or considered.
          I think the education component we are speaking of here involves water boarding and sensory deprivation at first, then progressively more brutal education techniques until he finally thinks the way that we specify he should think and only uses words and phrases that we will allow him to use.

          Be patient people. It takes time.. But they all break in the end. Oops! Sorry, great leader I got distracted I will bring your pipe and slippers and DEI manual immediately.

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          • GVGjr
            Moderator
            • Nov 2006
            • 43913

            Re: Tribunal / suspensions 2024

            What did everyone think of the Luke Parker suspension? I think 6 weeks is about right but it was a sickening bump.
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            • Bulldog Joe
              Premiership Moderator
              • Jul 2009
              • 5442

              Re: Tribunal / suspensions 2024

              Originally posted by GVGjr
              What did everyone think of the Luke Parker suspension? I think 6 weeks is about right but it was a sickening bump.
              Obviously I have only see footage on TV but I am amazed that the bump caused so much harm.
              Parker seemed to brace for a shepherd. Why was the Frankston player so unaware of his presence.
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              • mighty_west
                Coaching Staff
                • Feb 2008
                • 3378

                Re: Tribunal / suspensions 2024

                Originally posted by GVGjr
                What did everyone think of the Luke Parker suspension? I think 6 weeks is about right but it was a sickening bump.
                It kind of reminded me of the Gia on Kosi bump where Kosi wasn't looking and had zero awareness, Parker just didn't need to do it, and i couldn't believe the Swans argument that Luke had stopped, well he kind of did but he still picked him off as the player was simply jogging and wasn't even in the contest, 5 or 6 was about right.

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                • EasternWest
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 9929

                  Re: Tribunal / suspensions 2024

                  Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
                  Obviously I have only see footage on TV but I am amazed that the bump caused so much harm.
                  Parker seemed to brace for a shepherd. Why was the Frankston player so unaware of his presence.
                  Are you for serious?

                  The ball was about ten metres away after it had rolled directly in front of him. Why would the guy expect contact or need to be looking for him?

                  Parker sniped him.
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                  • jazzadogs
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 5472

                    Re: Tribunal / suspensions 2024

                    The Harrison Jones tackle suspension was another stinker. Fisher's momentum, and his knee digging in to the turf, created the minimal force. Grading something as medium impact because it has 'potential to cause injury' but grading other acts such as punching a face based on the level of injury actually sustained is so inconsistent it is laughable.

                    But at least they are consistent in being hopelessly inconsistent.

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                    • Bulldog Joe
                      Premiership Moderator
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 5442

                      Re: Tribunal / suspensions 2024

                      Originally posted by EasternWest
                      Are you for serious?

                      The ball was about ten metres away after it had rolled directly in front of him. Why would the guy expect contact or need to be looking for him?

                      Parker sniped him.
                      Just giving a perspective from limited viewing.
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                      • EasternWest
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 9929

                        Re: Tribunal / suspensions 2024

                        Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
                        Just giving a perspective from limited viewing.
                        Fair enough, but I'd watch it again. Dog act.
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                        • Bornadog
                          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 65619

                          Re: Tribunal / suspensions 2024

                          Swans are appealing - surprise surprise
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                          • GVGjr
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 43913

                            Re: Tribunal / suspensions 2024

                            Apparently Nathan Buckley asked the following questions

                            Luke Parker is a hardened AFL footballer playing against, with all due respect, amateur footballers (some more so than others)

                            Is he responsible for the lack of awareness of his opposition that contributes to the impact of the football action?


                            While it aligns somewhat with Bulldog Joe's observation I don't think it should all fall on the player who was focused on the footy.
                            The ball had passed Parker and he wasn't focused on it
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                            • Testekill
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2015
                              • 2327

                              Re: Tribunal / suspensions 2024

                              The reason why Parker copped such a harsh sentence is because Smith was completely out of the contest and had zero reason to expect to be cleaned up.

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                              • EasternWest
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 9929

                                Re: Tribunal / suspensions 2024

                                Originally posted by GVGjr
                                Apparently Nathan Buckley asked the following questions

                                Luke Parker is a hardened AFL footballer playing against, with all due respect, amateur footballers (some more so than others)

                                Is he responsible for the lack of awareness of his opposition that contributes to the impact of the football action?


                                While it aligns somewhat with Bulldog Joe's observation I don't think it should all fall on the player who was focused on the footy.
                                The ball had passed Parker and he wasn't focused on it
                                Originally posted by Testekill
                                The reason why Parker copped such a harsh sentence is because Smith was completely out of the contest and had zero reason to expect to be cleaned up.
                                Exactly this. Why the hell should he be expecting contact at that point?

                                Buckley is an idiot for saying that.
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