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  • G-Mo77
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Apr 2007
    • 9876

    Re: Tribunal / suspensions 2024

    Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
    A week for West?

    Yeah, this game is stuffed.
    I just caught up on this news. I'll take the Darcy one, that one could have possibly been more but West's? What did he actually do?

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    • EasternWest
      Hall of Fame
      • Aug 2009
      • 10002

      Re: Tribunal / suspensions 2024

      Originally posted by G-Mo77
      I just caught up on this news. I'll take the Darcy one, that one could have possibly been more but West's? What did he actually do?
      Garbage. They have to appeal it.
      "It's over. It's all over."

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      • jeemak
        Bulldog Legend
        • Oct 2010
        • 21835

        Re: Tribunal / suspensions 2024

        What the MRO/ tribunal might argue is that West was attacking the contest in a similar way that rightfully earned him his most recent suspension. They'd say he's a player who needs to learn from previous risky behaviours, without dealing with each individual instance on its merits.

        It's a silly way of going about things, but it's a justification for borderline decisions by the MRO/ tribunal that's been used before.
        TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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        • ledge
          Hall of Fame
          • Dec 2007
          • 14313

          Re: Tribunal / suspensions 2024

          And Harley Reid will probably get a week , rising star award just lost its shine completely.
          Bring back the biff

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          • soupman
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Nov 2007
            • 5113

            Re: Tribunal / suspensions 2024

            Is there any chance they just decide mid season to scrap the "fairest" part of the award, seeing as it isn't really relevant.

            It would be arrogantly unprofessional, which is right up the AFL's alley, and the alternative is not much better when they find a way to not suspend Reid for something they have clearly defined as suspendable.

            Honestly they'd probably see the "content" the move generates as a good thing, especially as it can be framed as the AFL scrapping an outdated rule, and every media outlet is going to immediately jump to the next line about how fantastic it is that Reid and Darcy, the clear frontrunners and indisputably rising stars, will still be able to battle it out.
            I should leave it alone but you're not right

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            • jeemak
              Bulldog Legend
              • Oct 2010
              • 21835

              Re: Tribunal / suspensions 2024

              The silver lining here is that Darcy will end up having a more impressive season and won't get ripped at the finish line by the sycophantic judging and media cabal that ****ed Bont over in 2014.

              What he's doing as an early game 208cm player is next level good and everything as impressive as Harley Reid's start, but I reckon he won't fatigue in the last ten games of the season like Reid could meaning he may play out the season better.

              Question - like the Brownlow do players still get rising star votes for their efforts in season or do they get excluded from panel judging altogether?
              TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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              • hujsh
                Hall of Fame
                • Nov 2007
                • 11844

                Re: Tribunal / suspensions 2024

                Originally posted by jeemak
                The silver lining here is that Darcy will end up having a more impressive season and won't get ripped at the finish line by the sycophantic judging and media cabal that ****ed Bont over in 2014.

                What he's doing as an early game 208cm player is next level good and everything as impressive as Harley Reid's start, but I reckon he won't fatigue in the last ten games of the season like Reid could meaning he may play out the season better.

                Question - like the Brownlow do players still get rising star votes for their efforts in season or do they get excluded from panel judging altogether?
                Buckey was asked this (he's on the panel) and he said he thinks they still get votes and that's what he'd like to do but he'll 'do as directed'
                [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                • The Adelaide Connection
                  Coaching Staff
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 2785

                  Re: Tribunal / suspensions 2024

                  Originally posted by jeemak
                  What the MRO/ tribunal might argue is that West was attacking the contest in a similar way that rightfully earned him his most recent suspension. They'd say he's a player who needs to learn from previous risky behaviours, without dealing with each individual instance on its merits.

                  It's a silly way of going about things, but it's a justification for borderline decisions by the MRO/ tribunal that's been used before.
                  Has anyone seen the incident in full from the goalpost cam? All the vision I have seen shows the reverse angle and then cuts to the goalpost when the players are on the floor.

                  The reason I ask is that it looks like West initially makes contact with another player (Maynard?) first before making the contact with the other player. I'd like to see the full goalie camera version- but it looks like he bounces off one player into the other.

                  Not that I think it is suspendible anyway, but it is weird why they don' just show the whole incident in the closest up view of it.

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                  • The Adelaide Connection
                    Coaching Staff
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 2785

                    Re: Tribunal / suspensions 2024

                    If Darcy gets suspended are we saying that any player who cannons into a players back (ie marking contest) is at risk if that player hits their head?

                    There are the legit marking contests when a player gets laid out and there are also a plethora of "unrealistic attempt" style ones that end up ironing out a player. Surely the latter has got to be suspendible if the player they have ridden falls forward and hits their head? What about the ones where they drive their knees through a players head and knock them out (ie Cordy in the 2016 Prelim)?

                    Edit: I think he should probably get a suspension- but the grading is confusing seeing he doesn't make contact with the head. I think it should also put the "unrealistic" marking attempts on notice.

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                    • Topdog
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 7471

                      Re: Tribunal / suspensions 2024

                      Originally posted by The Adelaide Connection
                      If Darcy gets suspended are we saying that any player who cannons into a players back (ie marking contest) is at risk if that player hits their head?
                      .
                      He already got 2 weeks. Decided yesterday.

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                      • Bulldog Joe
                        Premiership Moderator
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 5573

                        Re: Tribunal / suspensions 2024

                        Originally posted by Jeanette54
                        Given Harley is the unbackable favourite for the Rising Star award, I am sure he will get a "get out of jail free" card from the AFL I wonder if we will argue Sam's case in order to try to get a reduction in the sentence. Perhaps we need to engage Carlton's lawyers, they are always pretty adept in having verdicts overthrown.
                        Given the gambling dollar and whatever take the AFL gets, it probably generates a whole new market and revenue if Reid is ineligible.
                        Life is to be Enjoyed not Endured

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                        • Hotdog60
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 5908

                          Re: Tribunal / suspensions 2024

                          Would it be worth an appeal just to get it downgraded to 1 week. Not saying its not worth a report but the wording of it.
                          Don't piss off old people
                          The older we get the less "LIFE IN PRISON" is a deterrent...

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                          • bulldogtragic
                            The List Manager
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 34289

                            Re: Tribunal / suspensions 2024

                            Originally posted by jeemak
                            The silver lining here is that Darcy will end up having a more impressive season and won't get ripped at the finish line by the sycophantic judging and media cabal that ****ed Bont over in 2014.

                            What he's doing as an early game 208cm player is next level good and everything as impressive as Harley Reid's start, but I reckon he won't fatigue in the last ten games of the season like Reid could meaning he may play out the season better.

                            Question - like the Brownlow do players still get rising star votes for their efforts in season or do they get excluded from panel judging altogether?
                            I think the real silver lining is it forces us to manage his game time. With his injury history, while we don’t want to lose him, a three week training block (with the bye) and refresh for the back half of the year isn’t the worst outcome.
                            Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                            • ledge
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Dec 2007
                              • 14313

                              Re: Tribunal / suspensions 2024

                              Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                              I think the real silver lining is it forces us to manage his game time. With his injury history, while we don’t want to lose him, a three week training block (with the bye) and refresh for the back half of the year isn’t the worst outcome.
                              As long as we can win the next two without him , we need to get to 8-6 then we are in a very good position.
                              Bring back the biff

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                              • bulldogtragic
                                The List Manager
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 34289

                                Re: Tribunal / suspensions 2024

                                Originally posted by ledge
                                As long as we can win the next two without him , we need to get to 8-6 then we are in a very good position.
                                Makes no difference now, we are playing without him. Just got to win and keep winning.
                                Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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