ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

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I've watch the Bomber Thompson interview on AFL360 a couple of times now; he still refuses to see that they did anything wrong. He said that he takes responsibility for the supplements at Geelong (not drugs), but the program was cutting edge ... showing the way for all the other clubs. He continued with the "taking responsibility" thread when pushed about Essendon. He takes part responsibility for involving Dank, but the AFL and ASADA is at fault for what the players were injected with not the management or players of Essendon.

FFS Bomber ... it is your fault. It is James Hird's fault. It is David Evans fault. It is Paul Little's fault. It is the 34's fault.

Man up ... stop being a douche !!

I find Mark Thompson to be inconsistent and generally incoherent with what he endeavours to communicate and I'm baffled by how Geelong reached the heights that they did under his direction.

[KT31]

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I'm on strike at the moment down at the woolworths liquor dc next to laverton market and I agree with the above comment.
PS don't worry about going to Woolworths, Dan Murphy or BWS if your a drinker because the stores are closing due to being empty

Good luck with the outcome Ledge and not just because I will run out of grog.

[ledge]

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Good luck with the outcome Ledge and not just because I will run out of grog.

Thanks KT we just went back .. The little people do still control the big companies, they got a hell of a shock today and caved in when all DCs went out, alcohol will be back in stores tomorrow :-)

[jeemak]

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I find Mark Thompson to be inconsistent and generally incoherent with what he endeavours to communicate and I'm baffled by how Geelong reached the heights that they did under his direction.

He's likely to have been operating under stricter discipline at the time.

It doesn't take a lot for a genius to come across as a bit of a bumbler if they're off the boil a little. Take it back a few years and he was an extremely engaging person.

[bulldogtragic]

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Essendons lowest scoring season since 1921.

Got to be everyone's fault who isn't coaching the team.

[Bornadog]

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I find Mark Thompson to be inconsistent and generally incoherent with what he endeavours to communicate and I'm baffled by how Geelong reached the heights that they did under his direction.

Exactly what I have thought. He certainly is an odd ball.

[GVGjr]

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I find Mark Thompson to be inconsistent and generally incoherent with what he endeavours to communicate and I'm baffled by how Geelong reached the heights that they did under his direction.

He seems to be following the same incoherent approach Sheedy did.
Hugely overrated in my opinion.

[Twodogs]

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Essendons lowest scoring season since 1921.

Got to be everyone's fault who isn't coaching the team.

That was probably his grandfather's fault..

[ledge]

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Aren't the drums starting to beat a bit louder now about Hirds tenure?

[Jeanette54]

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I think there is a lot to like about Bomber Thompson. He must have been under enormous stress due to the conflict of his Essendon and media commitments on afl360. In fact I think his segment during 2013 & 2014 was the shows weekly highlight. His change in demeanour between the early days and now is, I believe, symptomatic of the damage that this saga has inflicted on a number of good people.

Whilst I don't condone the EFC "supplements" program I have to acknowledge that, whatever WADA come up with, the personal price paid by many of those involved has been enormous. I am not a fan of James Hird, but you really have to admire his resilience and self belief; not withstanding that many see this as delusional.

[LostDoggy]

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Last night on AFL360 Brendan Goddard threw his teddy bear out of the pram on behalf of the players. Of course he blamed the media for keeping the pressure on the players.

When will the playing group realise that it is solely their club, with their mismanagement, who put them in this position.

If the club had monitored the program correctly and kept records (that one would have expected in a program of that type), then the whole matter could have been correctly adjudicated in a matter of weeks. Innocence or otherwise would have been an easy call.

Of course they kept records. Where are those records now? Well, THAT'S the mystery. My bet is they've added to Essendon's carbon footprint.

Do we actually know "Svengali Steve" kept no documents? Or maybe the documentation ended up in the incinerator? Whatever, the salient fact is that Steve of a Thousand Vials has received a life ban from involvement in any sport. On the basis of the key finding - to wit: the AFL could not be comfortably satisfied that Thymosin Beta4 was not administered - that seems incredibly harsh. A life ban for poor record keeping. But let's not be coy here. If it looks dodgy, if it smells dodgy, if it involves dodgy characters and if the m o of the operation is dodgy then it's probably dodgy. This has been an absolute disaster for the game. The AFL were asleep at the wheel on this one. Remember it was as long ago as 1996 that Adelaide were reported to be using creatine. That should have alerted the AFL that oversight of supplements programs had to be a priority.

The appearance of oversight of supplements programs, you mean? Branding, mate. Gotta protect the brand. That's the bit that shits me the most about this whole affair. OK, Essendon got caught with their hands in the cookie jar, fine. It's the way the AFL have "protected their brand" that stinks. You can justify just about anything as a corporate organisation if you label it as "protecting your brand".

Believe it or not, football clubs are not the big businesses they like to pretend they are. Most have very poor internal financial controls, almost no functioning HR department and are dominated by narcissistic, borderline psychopathic individuals.

Sounds like every big business I've ever worked with.

Sounds like a big business to me

Haha, beat me to it!

Thanks KT we just went back .. The little people do still control the big companies, they got a hell of a shock today and caved in when all DCs went out, alcohol will be back in stores tomorrow :-)

Good on you mate. Both for sticking up for your rights, and for going back to work so I can enjoy my right to consume grog!

THE ALCOS! UNITED! WILL NEVER BE DEFEATED!!

[Topdog]

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Most of the media are firmly against him now. BT was going off on him today, in particular about his failure to take responsibility for the whole saga.

[westdog54]

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The 7 team have been his biggest defenders.

Surely he's gone.

[azabob]

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Robbo is last man standing.

[Ghost Dog]

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I really liked reading this article in the age , and it basically talks about Essendon's false sense of entitlement, believing they are a football superpower, when in fact they are not. This has led to all kinds of oversights of judgement. I thought the article was spot on. And it wasn't written by Caroline Wilson for once.

http://m.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/james-hird-just-the-tip-of-the-iceberg-for-essendon-a-club-in-denial-20150816-gj06do.html