ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

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  • Dry Rot
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2007
    • 6444

    Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

    Has someone already posted about WADA finding TB4 in two samples, and that WADA is developing a new test for TB4?

    The 35 then Bomber players and Hird are doomed.
    The fight is here; I need ammunition, not a ride.

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    • Twodogs
      Moderator
      • Nov 2006
      • 27654

      Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

      Originally posted by Dry Rot
      Has someone already posted about WADA finding TB4 in two samples, and that WADA is developing a new test for TB4?

      The 35 then Bomber players and Hird are doomed.
      Yep. And they tested another 24 that had no levels at all
      They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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      • ledge
        Hall of Fame
        • Dec 2007
        • 14304

        Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

        Apparently it's a drug you only have a small window to test, pretty much immediately after it's injected.
        Bring back the biff

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        • Greystache
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Dec 2009
          • 9775

          Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

          That's some seriously good Kool Aid they've got down there at Essendon. One of their nuffy supporters has lodged papers in the Supreme Court against Demetriou, Fitzpatrick, and the AFL for misleading and deceptive conduct, and effectively fraud for investigating and punishing Essendon. Jimmy certainly has a future as a cult leader

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          Originally posted by Kool Aid Drinker
          Papers have been lodged in the Supreme Court of Victoria alleging multiple acts of misleading or deceptive conduct by the AFL during the long-running supplements saga.

          The action was brought by Melbourne lawyer Jackson Taylor and also names AFL chairman Michael Fitzpatrick and chief executive Gillon McLachlan as defendants.

          The Statement of Claim includes allegations that the AFL misled and deceived the public over both the integrity of the joint investigation, conducted by the AFL and the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority (ASADA), and the AFL's responsibilities for player health and safety.

          In the two-and-a-half years since the "blackest day" in Australian sport alleged widespread use of performance enhancing drugs, it is the Essendon AFL club that the spotlight has centred on.

          The 34 past and present Essendon players caught up in the investigation were all cleared by the AFL's anti-doping tribunal earlier this year, only to have their relief replaced by shock when they learned the World Anti-Doping Agency was appealing against the findings.

          That appeal will be held by the international Court of Arbitration for Sport in November.

          While the AFL has endeavoured to end the saga as quickly as possible the story continues to detract from the national competition.

          Only two weeks ago, Essendon's coach James Hird agreed to leave the club in order to allow the team and the club to "move on" from Australia's biggest sporting controversy.

          The sports scientist at the centre of the controversial supplements program at Essendon, Stephen Dank, is appealing against his lifetime ban from sport imposed by the AFL Anti-Doping Tribunal and is also yet to face the Court of Arbitration for Sport as part of the WADA appeal.

          Today's action likely means a third season of AFL football is going to be overshadowed as the drama takes yet another turn.

          Timeline: Essendon doping saga


          Take a look back at how events unfolded in ASADA's investigation into the Essendon Football Club.
          Late last year Mr Taylor urged Essendon members to push for an extraordinary general meeting and called for a retired judge or QC to review the club's handling of the saga.

          At the time he told The Australian: "The club cannot go on like this...we are urging members to bring on the EGM so we can put the club on the stable footing it needs for the future."

          Now Mr Taylor's attention has turned to the sport's governing body.

          "Companies that act with the values and integrity the AFL claimed that it had, do so at an economic cost," he said.

          "Those companies, the public and other stakeholders, are entitled to the protection of the law from companies who claim to act in ways they do not."

          Mr Taylor's statement of claim runs to 32 pages and also names former CEO Andrew Demetriou alongside McLachlan and Fitzpatrick, alleging comments made in numerous media interviews and in the AFL's annual report were misleading or deceptive.

          Mr Taylor suggests constant comments that Essendon 'self reported' are incorrect, and that rather the club requested an investigation "only after, and as a consequence of having received the Demetriou disclosures and the McLachlan disclosures and having been required by the AFL to request the AFL-ASADA investigation".

          It is an exercise in 'he said, she said' and Mr Taylor is aware his reputation is at stake in launching such proceedings against one of this country's most powerful sporting organisations.

          A separate allegation is tantamount to accusations of fraud.

          Mr Taylor claims the AFL continued to offer for sale to the public AFL Silver Memberships which entitled purchasers to preferential rights to secure tickets to matches in the final series – which Essendon was on target to play in.

          However, Mr Taylor claims that in June of 2013 the AFL had already determined to exclude Essendon from the finals or at least have points removed in order for them not to qualify, but continued to sell Silver Memberships including to Essendon supporters.

          The announcement that Essendon was to be stripped of points and miss the final series was not made until August 2013. Withholding such information is alleged to be in breach of Australian consumer law.
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          • LostDoggy
            WOOF Member
            • Jan 2007
            • 8307

            Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

            Presumably this guy has the club's blessing rather than being just some individual nutter.

            Real smart move by a club that keeps talking about how it just wants to help it's players by putting this whole mess behind them and move forwards.

            Suspect any prospective coach would look at this development and have any doubts about the joint confirmed.

            Will they ever get it?

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            • Twodogs
              Moderator
              • Nov 2006
              • 27654

              Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

              A future as a cult leader?
              They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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              • Jeanette54
                Senior Player
                • Oct 2009
                • 1272

                Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                "The action was brought by Melbourne lawyer Jackson Taylor and also names AFL chairman Michael Fitzpatrick and chief executive Gillon McLachlan as defendants".

                Its a bit odd that Andrew Demetriou wasn't named, rather than Gillon McLachlan. The case began under AD's watch, and I think that the suspension also occurred before GM was involved. I am happy to be corrected on this if my memory is erroneous.
                The truth will set you free,
                but first it will piss you off. ... Gloria Steinem.

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                • Dancin' Douggy
                  WOOF Member
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 2876

                  Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                  Wow. This is incredible. I mean really incredible. I would just love to hear the absolute truth come out in each and every single facet of this.

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                  • bulldogtragic
                    The List Manager
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 34289

                    Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                    I love the billion dollar over-run legal system is a play thing for twerps...
                    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                    • Twodogs
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 27654

                      Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                      Originally posted by Jeanette54
                      "The action was brought by Melbourne lawyer Jackson Taylor and also names AFL chairman Michael Fitzpatrick and chief executive Gillon McLachlan as defendants".

                      Its a bit odd that Andrew Demetriou wasn't named, rather than Gillon McLachlan. The case began under AD's watch, and I think that the suspension also occurred before GM was involved. I am happy to be corrected on this if my memory is erroneous.
                      GM did a lot of the early liason between ASADA and the AFL according to Chip Le Grandes book.
                      They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                      • Topdog
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 7471

                        Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                        Originally posted by Twodogs
                        GM did a lot of the early liason between ASADA and the AFL according to Chip Le Grandes book.
                        Does that kind of prove that he has the clubs blessing here? You wouldn't go to court with just Chip's book as proof that GM was heavily involved.

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                        • Hotdog60
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 5904

                          Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                          Former Don takes club, AFL to court over supplement documents

                          FORMER Essendon rookie Hal Hunter is trying to force the club and the AFL to give up documents about the 2012 supplements program that could form the basis for legal action against the organisations.

                          Lawyers for Hunter told a Victorian court the supplements program exposed him to significant risk to his health and well-being, and he believed he could have grounds to sue.

                          Hunter, who was delisted at the end of 2013 after two seasons without a senior game, agreed to participate in the 2012 supplements program because it was endorsed by senior Essendon players, the court heard.

                          "During the relevant period the Essendon Football Club owed him a duty of care," Arthur Moses, for Hunter, told the Victorian Supreme Court.

                          "The AFL may have also breached its duty to ensure his welfare as a player."

                          The court heard that early in 2012 a PowerPoint presentation was given to Essendon players, during which coach James Hird and senior players assured the team that the program was compliant with anti-doping regulations.

                          Among other things, Hunter's lawyers are seeking the record of interview between Hird and the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority.

                          Mr Moses said Hunter also wants to know when the AFL became aware of the supplements program, and what it did with that information.

                          "We want to know what documents they had that could have put them on notice," Mr Moses said.

                          Renee Enbom, for the AFL, said the organisation does not accept that there could be any possible claim against it.

                          It objects to providing a number of documents on the grounds that they are too broad, the court heard.

                          MORE

                          Is it about to start with former players asking the question.
                          Don't piss off old people
                          The older we get the less "LIFE IN PRISON" is a deterrent...

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                          • Twodogs
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 27654

                            Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                            Give 'em hell, Hal.
                            They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                            • Happy Days
                              Hall of Fame
                              • May 2008
                              • 10142

                              Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                              Originally posted by Twodogs
                              Give 'em hell, Hal.
                              Hal's a tattoo artist now - put a shark on my girlfriend's arm.

                              I never thought of a butterfly tattoo as intimidating, but then I saw the one he's got on the back of his neck leading up to and partly encompassing the back of his head.
                              - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                              • Twodogs
                                Moderator
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 27654

                                Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                                Geez. Some people really get into their tatst.
                                They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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