Well Ruck Me.

[Bornadog]

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Good call out Mofra, mobility in a ruck man is what I think Bevo is after.
Lynch would be worth a close look at.

Not just Bevo, no one wants an old fashion lumbering ruck anymore

[Mofra]

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Not just Bevo, no one wants an old fashion lumbering ruck anymore

Leon Cameron does. It's odd-on that Briggs becomes their no 1 ruck next year with Pruess the second option. Both are Mumford clones - big, slow, brutish.

We do need a mobile ruck though. A lot has been said of Ladhams but he may not leave and with Dixon in his last year next year he might be convinced to stay. There are rumours of his off-field issues as well which may put us off.

[GVGjr]

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Not just Bevo, no one wants an old fashion lumbering ruck anymore

Have a look at a lot of the ruck man in the competition. There are a few of the slower types still performing well.

Mobile and versatile would be a Bevo. and a few other coaches, trait.

[azabob]

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With Bruce going down, I think a no 1 ruck is even more important now.
Behind Luke Jackson, English is the best forward/ruck in the competition. Naughton and JUH are going get a pre-season together and the three of those guys will be our tall forward targets next year.

I know he's not the sexiest name going around, but I really want Max Lynch. He's no monster (200cm and 99kgs) but his running capacity for a ruckman is extraordinary and he'd fit in our system really well and at 22 years old is an 8-10 year prospect.
More importantly he's gettable as he's stuck behind Grundy & Cameron at Collingwood.

Is Lynch more physical than English? I really think we need a yang to English ying not a like for like.

[Bornadog]

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The nominations for best AFL under 22 is struggling to find rucks.

Clubs just don't want to invest in young ruckman.

[Axe Man]

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The nominations for best AFL under 22 is struggling to find rucks.

Clubs just don't want to invest in young ruckman.

You need to have played 12 games this year to qualify for the squad and not many rucks are ready at that age to be playing full(ish) seasons.

[Bornadog]

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You need to have played 12 games this year to qualify for the squad and not many rucks are ready at that age to be playing full(ish) seasons.

18 teams and the choice is very limited

[Mofra]

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Is Lynch more physical than English? I really think we need a yang to English ying not a like for like.

Without wanting to sound harsh, I think most ruckmen are.
English is a midfielder who became a ruck due to his growth spurt, who just happens to have developed very quickly in a forward role.
Lynch is a ruck who just happens to have a weapon (tank) that we can seek to build on and exploit.

[soupman]

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Clubs just don't want to invest in young ruckman.

I think it's just the role where it's most important to have a mature body. Most kids tall enough to play ruck (200cm+) are beanpoles at 18 and take 4 years to fill out, and clubs are typically not expecting much from them till then anyway. The 200cm kids that are talented enough to get games despite not being big yet are typically the ones that are really good in a different spot than ruck.

[Mofra]

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I think it's just the role where it's most important to have a mature body. Most kids tall enough to play ruck (200cm+) are beanpoles at 18 and take 4 years to fill out, and clubs are typically not expecting much from them till then anyway. The 200cm kids that are talented enough to get games despite not being big yet are typically the ones that are really good in a different spot than ruck.

Add to that a lot of very good rucks were taken as late picks or rookies - Dean Cox and Aaron Sandilands come to mind.
Rowan Marshall was also a rookie.
Plus good ones can often be found mature and ready to go for later picks e.g. Nankervis for a third rounder, Witts at GCS.

[macca]

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Add to that a lot of very good rucks were taken as late picks or rookies - Dean Cox and Aaron Sandilands come to mind.
Rowan Marshall was also a rookie.
Plus good ones can often be found mature and ready to go for later picks e.g. Nankervis for a third rounder, Witts at GCS.

Good call Mofra. Witts leaving the pies was a coup for GCS. He was behind Grundy and I recall they did not have a ruck coach at the time.

Anyone in rucks the local leagues that would be an interest at 21-22 years of age ?

[Mofra]

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Good call Mofra. Witts leaving the pies was a coup for GCS. He was behind Grundy and I recall they did not have a ruck coach at the time.

Anyone in rucks the local leagues that would be an interest at 21-22 years of age ?

TBH I think Lynch is just about the best performed ruck at VFL level this year that is gettable and that would suit us.
Meek may come cheap and is bigger than Lynch but I'm not sure he's our type.

[bulldogtragic]

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Bevo said pregame at worst halving the ruck contests is what we have to do.

Then for the love of Christ go recruit one of reasonable age and sound body.

[Missing Dog]

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Jesse Glass McCasker Footscray VFL (198cm 98kg) has only had the opportunity to play primary ruck in two matches, when Sweet was in our AFL side. Comparing his stats with Max Lynch when playing against the same teams JGM is superior esp in clearances and tackling.


Against GC Suns
Glass McCasker Goal 1 Disp 14 HO 38 Clearances 5 Marks 4 Tackles 5
Max Lynch Goal 0 Disp 12 HO 29 Clearances 3 Marks 5 Tackles 2

Frankston
Glass McCasker Goal 1 Disp 17 HO33 Clearances 9 Marks 2 Tackles 5
Max Lynch Goal 1 Disp 19 HO36 Clearances 5 Marks 3 Tackles 3

[bulldogsthru&thru]

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Seriously English shits me no end. I’d be more than happy to trade him. I CANNOT stand his weak efforts in every single contest. Ceglar just gave him the smallest shove and he goes flying. Gives us zero hitouts. Can’t take a mark around the ground. Just SOFT.