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  • jeemak
    Bulldog Legend
    • Oct 2010
    • 21814

    #16
    Originally posted by Grantysghost

    I mentioned the media but it's the last thing that matters.
    We have a great coach let's back him. I've had my moments of doubt however the team performed amazingly last year.
    Richards into the guts, Lobby back just genius moves really
    I guess what I'm saying is I don't think it matters either way. If we had have performed better in the elimination final then perhaps I'd be a bit more emphatic about having locked him away, but we didn't perform and while I'm usually into the players Beveridge carriers some blame for that.

    Everyone's always in a rush to do something because that's better than doing nothing. Often in my career and in life I've found that not to be the case, with things sorting themselves out.

    That's not to say you can't be proactive. You need to have a coherent plan for multiple scenarios. But doing something when there's no clear justification for action doesn't make sense to me.
    TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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    • BontlowSzn
      Rookie List
      • Dec 2024
      • 93

      #17
      Originally posted by Grantysghost

      Agree I really don't understand the pause. Maybe it's from Bevos side.
      New Tassie coach.
      I suspect this is the case. We may have offered a 12 month extension and Bevo's camp didn't want it.

      Bevo may have also indicated this will be his last year regardless. Remembering his initial comment about the life span of a senior coach should be about seven years.

      i love Bevo, but given our patchy form the past few years, I would be more uncomfortable if we had him extended for another 2-3 years, rather than out of contract this year.

      The first half of the season will be telling. If we aren't performing, I unfortunately see a move being made durung the season. If we start really well, give the man his contract.

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      • SonofScray
        Coaching Staff
        • Apr 2008
        • 4234

        #18
        Unusual scenario given the Club was so keen to avoid this scenario when we extended his tenure last time. Perhaps the Club is being more frugal and doesn’t want a big payout when we turf him mid year.

        Time and Tide Waits For No Man

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        • jeemak
          Bulldog Legend
          • Oct 2010
          • 21814

          #19
          Originally posted by SonofScray
          Unusual scenario given the Club was so keen to avoid this scenario when we extended his tenure last time. Perhaps the Club is being more frugal and doesn’t want a big payout when we turf him mid year.
          I think the payout changes would mean we're able to curtail a full whack should it go to shit post a future signing. But, with your legal issues anything beyond twelve months would hurt.
          TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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          • G-Mo77
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Apr 2007
            • 9876

            #20
            Originally posted by SonofScray
            Unusual scenario given the Club was so keen to avoid this scenario when we extended his tenure last time. Perhaps the Club is being more frugal and doesn’t want a big payout when we turf him mid year.
            If things go belly up (signs are already pointing to drama) I think he'll be gone before the end of season. No reason to extend him now or at the half way point. Wait and see.

            Bont's signature is far more important.

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            • Grantysghost
              Bouncing Strong
              • Apr 2010
              • 18957

              #21
              Originally posted by jeemak

              I guess what I'm saying is I don't think it matters either way. If we had have performed better in the elimination final then perhaps I'd be a bit more emphatic about having locked him away, but we didn't perform and while I'm usually into the players Beveridge carriers some blame for that.

              Everyone's always in a rush to do something because that's better than doing nothing. Often in my career and in life I've found that not to be the case, with things sorting themselves out.

              That's not to say you can't be proactive. You need to have a coherent plan for multiple scenarios. But doing something when there's no clear justification for action doesn't make sense to me.
              I'm sort of ambivalent on micro analysis of his results. I mean what could he have done differently to stop the Hawks?

              For me the back half of the season was a huge success owing in no small part to some of the positional changes Luke made.

              I guess my questions are : what are we waiting for ? What is the metric that tells us he is the guy? What will will change from now to rd 10 that gives us any more information about Bevo than we have now.....?

              What answer are they expecting?

              To my mind the only outcome is he's gone, considering we already know the answers to each of these questions.
              Last edited by Grantysghost; 30-01-2025, 09:20 AM.
              BT COME BACK!​

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              • Countrydog5
                Rookie List
                • Dec 2023
                • 231

                #22
                The contract situation could be controlled from Bevo's side rather than the clubs. He seems like the sort of guy who can read the room regarding his position, and not put the club under pressure to sign him just for leverage in the case the team doesn't perform and the club want to move him on. Every chance if we're struggling past the bye, he decides it's time to step away himself anyway. We have no need to rush him into re-signing. Let things pan out and go from there. There'll be no shortage of suitors if he does decide his time with the dogs is up. We owe him as much respect as possible for all he's done for the club, let's keep it as simple as possible so things don't get messy.

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                • Grantysghost
                  Bouncing Strong
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 18957

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Countrydog5
                  The contract situation could be controlled from Bevo's side rather than the clubs. He seems like the sort of guy who can read the room regarding his position, and not put the club under pressure to sign him just for leverage in the case the team doesn't perform and the club want to move him on. Every chance if we're struggling past the bye, he decides it's time to step away himself anyway. We have no need to rush him into re-signing. Let things pan out and go from there. There'll be no shortage of suitors if he does decide his time with the dogs is up. We owe him as much respect as possible for all he's done for the club, let's keep it as simple as possible so things don't get messy.
                  I don't think he's that nice a guy that he would gamble with his career. I get the sentiment, and I'm sure that's how he would want it to be publicly however, I think that if it's controlled from Luke's side (which I doubt but anything's possible) then it maybe more to do with another offer. Eg inaugural Tassie coach.
                  BT COME BACK!​

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                  • Kingbiggs
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jul 2024
                    • 84

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Grantysghost

                    I'm sort of ambivalent on micro analysis of his results. I mean what could he have done differently to stop the Hawks?

                    For me the back half of the season was a huge success owing in no small part to some of the positional changes Luke made.

                    I guess my questions are : what are we waiting for ? What is the metric that tells us he is the guy? What will will change from now to rd 10 that gives us any more information about Bevo than we have now.....?

                    What answer are they expecting?

                    To my mind the only outcome is he's gone, considering we already know the answers to each of these questions.
                    I would say the metric to make a decision at round 10 wouldnt be solely the W/L column, but also our premiership profile. If we're miles off it and the W/L isn't great I'd say he's close to gone. If our premiership profile is looking good but our W/L's aren't as great I'd say the club keeps him.

                    Really refreshing to have so many here backing Bevo, felt like I was the only one left supporting him after the hawks loss at Round 8 last year, so glad to know there was still a group somewhere.

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                    • Grantysghost
                      Grantysghost commented
                      Editing a comment
                      I have been on the "time to move on" bandwagon in previous years. He did great things last season so I am team let's saddle up another lap on the Bevo train.
                  • Countrydog5
                    Rookie List
                    • Dec 2023
                    • 231

                    #25
                    Originally posted by Kingbiggs

                    Really refreshing to have so many here backing Bevo, felt like I was the only one left supporting him after the hawks loss at Round 8 last year, so glad to know there was still a group somewhere.
                    I'll be the first to admit I thought we needed to move past him after the hawks game. I watched that match at the ground in horror at how poor we looked both structurally and effort wise. Glad we picked it up again in the second half of the season, but there are certainly still some lingering worries about our performance over the length of a 23 game season. It's why I'm comfortable not renewing him this early in the season.

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                    • SonofScray
                      Coaching Staff
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 4234

                      #26
                      Originally posted by jeemak

                      I think the payout changes would mean we're able to curtail a full whack should it go to shit post a future signing. But, with your legal issues anything beyond twelve months would hurt.
                      Yeah, I thought the changes around pay outs for coaches might have seen things skew against Bevo at times since his initial extension, but I recall some clarifications around the rule posted here that meant we would have been coughing up regardless. Assuming that’s not the case now.
                      Time and Tide Waits For No Man

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                      • WBFC4FFC
                        WOOF Member
                        • Mar 2012
                        • 396

                        #27
                        Originally posted by Grantysghost

                        I'm sort of ambivalent on micro analysis of his results. I mean what could he have done differently to stop the Hawks?

                        For me the back half of the season was a huge success owing in no small part to some of the positional changes Luke made.

                        I guess my questions are : what are we waiting for ? What is the metric that tells us he is the guy? What will will change from now to rd 10 that gives us any more information about Bevo than we have now.....?

                        What answer are they expecting?

                        To my mind the only outcome is he's gone, considering we already know the answers to each of these questions.
                        Agree with all this.

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                        • BiteNibbleChomp
                          Rookie List
                          • Dec 2024
                          • 175

                          #28
                          Originally posted by G-Mo77

                          If things go belly up (signs are already pointing to drama) I think he'll be gone before the end of season. ...
                          If the club's decision is that this is his last year, I hope we'll at least let him see out the year. Even if we come last.

                          After all he's done for the club, I think we owe him better than to sack him in July.

                          - BNC

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                          • Bornadog
                            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 66687

                            #29
                            Originally posted by BiteNibbleChomp

                            If the club's decision is that this is his last year, I hope we'll at least let him see out the year. Even if we come last.

                            After all he's done for the club, I think we owe him better than to sack him in July.

                            - BNC
                            Agree.
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                            • The Bulldogs Bite
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Dec 2006
                              • 11244

                              #30
                              It wouldn't surprise me if it was more his decision, with perhaps a desire for a new challenge elsewhere. Understandable if so, 10 years is a long time.

                              From our perspective, surely we're capable of managing PR to be able to see if we want to continue on post 2025 with Bevo. I don't buy the 'sign him to avoid conflict ' calls - that type of decision making is for the weak. We're not a weak football club anymore, stop acting like it.
                              W00F!

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