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  • Vred
    Senior Player
    • Nov 2018
    • 1291

    #76
    I just want to state publicly and openly for the record, that I would rather Bevo for another 10 years versus Ken Hinkley for one game.
    [I][B]"Its always good to win the Ashes test match'' - Libba, AFL Grand Final, 2016[/B][/I]

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    • Eastdog
      WOOF Communtiy Organiser
      • Feb 2012
      • 18206

      #77
      Originally posted by FrediKanoute

      What about 7 preliminary finals losses......granted over a much longer period of time and with arguably better teams.
      Yes absolutely Fredi. That was on another level from 1985-2016. Got to a number of prelims but just couldn't get there. We should have made the GF in 1997 but it wasn't to be. 1985 and 2009 as well we were very close.

      Bevo achieved that in 2016 making the GF and winning it which was one of the biggest moments in a club history.

      They are just so hard to win GFs let a alone having a dynasty. You have to be consistently good and have a good run with injuries.
      "Footscray people are incredible people; so humble. I'm just so happy - ecstatic"

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      • mjp
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Jan 2007
        • 7240

        #78
        Originally posted by Vred

        Personally, I am all for the fine-tooth comb reviewing as a group. I'm all for Cox's way of doing things here vs how we handled 2021.
        It's taken us years to bounce back from 21 and honestly I don't even think we're fully ''bounced back'' - Not sure how we had the season we did in 21 only to serve up what we have since without minimal personal changes.
        7 + 1/2 hours?

        Give me a break.
        What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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        • jeemak
          Bulldog Legend
          • Oct 2010
          • 21376

          #79
          Originally posted by mjp

          7 + 1/2 hours?

          Give me a break.
          He apparently cracked the shits when player welfare personnel said they wouldn't clamp players eyelids open, administer eye drops, and inject nausea inducing serum into them throughout the ordeal.
          TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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          • Axe Man
            Hall of Fame
            • Nov 2008
            • 10866

            #80
            Surely there is some middle ground between Bevo's don't mention the war and Coxy's Guantanamo Bay inspired session?

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            • AshMac
              Senior Player
              • Aug 2018
              • 1714

              #81
              Originally posted by mjp

              I kind of think footy sides pick themselves.

              When you say 'not rewarding form in lower leagues...who?

              I don't really get the 'darling players' piece either.



              I don't think the game-plan is massively complicated or hard to recognise. To me, if all the players switched jumpers you would have recognised the 2024 Bulldogs because they were pretty consistent in what they did.

              - Structure first - we (have been) a 3-tall (forward and back) side who play 1x ruckman and an extra (from forward) at BTA stoppages. The extra gets INSIDE the stop - inside the winger - and the winger generally becomes responsible for outlet cover. The forwards roll-up/round-up the spare...1-ruckman supported by one or more of the tall forwards at CBD and potentially by a 5th inside mid at around the ground stops. Defensively we play a 2-kicker structure (Dale is one, Bramble was most often the other in 24) who have a high set license and we play an anchor when ball is in forward half - Jones is the usual.

              - Style - Yep, defensively it's a high press with a hotline bias (anchor) and we try to 'wedge' the oppo on the skinny side to create repeat entries. We are a forward half intercept (mark or gb) team who try to re-enter within (guessing now) 3-seconds of taking possession by kicking high to a tall...again, we try to enter skinny to deny the oppo the fatside outlet as we are not set up to defend from there. Down the other end, our ruck is the LDL option with secondary targets coming from a pair of forwards - one who remains connected to the Ruck (approx 15m behind - usually Naughton) and the other maintains a corridor bias to support the switch (Darcy). 3rd tall is the forward anchor and tries to lengthen the ground/spread the oppo...As the year went on we played a 4th small forward and the focus seemed to be on having a 3-3 or 2-4 fwd line with the smalls being pressure focussed players (West, McNeil, VDM)...there responsibility was primarily surrounding the exit points - skinny and fat - and taking away the short kicks that would enable the oppo to set up their spread....
              That is a great explanation
              The dam wall has busted!

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              • jeemak
                Bulldog Legend
                • Oct 2010
                • 21376

                #82
                Originally posted by Axe Man
                Surely there is some middle ground between Bevo's don't mention the war and Coxy's Guantanamo Bay inspired session?
                Middle ground is for pussies.
                TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                • FrediKanoute
                  Coaching Staff
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 3796

                  #83
                  I think, and this is just an opinion, that Bont's decision to stay will be linked to Bevo. Yes Bont is a bulldog through and through, but I think Bevo has had a HUGE impact on his career and if Bevo leaves, happily or with a shove Bont may consider options.

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                  • mjp
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 7240

                    #84
                    Originally posted by Axe Man
                    Surely there is some middle ground between Bevo's don't mention the war and Coxy's Guantanamo Bay inspired session?
                    I actually love Dean Cox - he is a great fella and genuinely one of the funniest people I have ever met.

                    But 7 1/2 hours? That's a story for a newspaper. What are people taking in after 30-mins let alone 7 hours...it's just stupid.

                    Yeah - look back on some moments I guess and how you're going to address them but they got absolutely pulverised...what are they reviewing? Bring your work boots and lunch pails to the job site, not your loafers and sushi rolls...review over.

                    If you want to look at the moments from the 2023 gf that resulted in a 4-point result - have at it. When the game is over by half time though, what are you really looking at??
                    What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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                    • Mofra
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 14788

                      #85
                      The first minute took an hour to review - that's amazing. That's a full minute used per second of game time.

                      To put it another way, it takes Dean Cox two and a half days without a break to watch a single episode of 60 Minutes.
                      Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                      • azabob
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 15095

                        #86
                        Originally posted by jeemak

                        Middle ground is for pussies.
                        Correction - Middle grounds is for NETS
                        More of an In Bruges guy?

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                        • mjp
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 7240

                          #87
                          Originally posted by Uninformed
                          I would be interested in your take on what our coaches would be discussing now, at this stage of preparation. What would the hot issues be for them today do you think?
                          Probably what happened at training today. Who performed well, who is making the same mistakes as ever...and what all of that might look like...

                          I guess my best explanation would be to think of your own workplace (whatever it is) and think of what the topic of (work related) conversation is...it will be around what you are working on right now. There will be some review sessions where (guessing) Egan or Power would be asking the "how does what we're working on now fit with the overall plan, have we tweaked this/that do we need to, what about the plans for this player - changes or no changes" but not everyone would be involved in that...

                          They'll be talking about what they think is going well and what they think isn't - and working through new drills to double down on the former and remedy the latter...
                          What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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                          • The Bulldogs Bite
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 11042

                            #88
                            An HOUR on the first minute of the game!?

                            That HAS to be hyperbole.

                            That or Cox has a very short attention span.
                            W00F!

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                            • NAUGHTY100
                              Rookie List
                              • Dec 2024
                              • 339

                              #89
                              Originally posted by mjp

                              I actually love Dean Cox - he is a great fella and genuinely one of the funniest people I have ever met.

                              But 7 1/2 hours? That's a story for a newspaper. What are people taking in after 30-mins let alone 7 hours...it's just stupid.

                              Yeah - look back on some moments I guess and how you're going to address them but they got absolutely pulverised...what are they reviewing? Bring your work boots and lunch pails to the job site, not your loafers and sushi rolls...review over.

                              If you want to look at the moments from the 2023 gf that resulted in a 4-point result - have at it. When the game is over by half time though, what are you really looking at??
                              Totally agree mjp 7 1/2 hours is total over kill , we have all sat through lectures or speeches that went over time but omg 7 hours i would hazard at a guess that 99% of the players would have tuned out after what 2 or 3 hours , that would have been nauseating to the point of collapse . Certainly time not spent well for the club .

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                              • Uninformed
                                Draftee
                                • Jan 2023
                                • 727

                                #90
                                Originally posted by mjp

                                Probably what happened at training today. Who performed well, who is making the same mistakes as ever...and what all of that might look like...

                                I guess my best explanation would be to think of your own workplace (whatever it is) and think of what the topic of (work related) conversation is...it will be around what you are working on right now. There will be some review sessions where (guessing) Egan or Power would be asking the "how does what we're working on now fit with the overall plan, have we tweaked this/that do we need to, what about the plans for this player - changes or no changes" but not everyone would be involved in that...

                                They'll be talking about what they think is going well and what they think isn't - and working through new drills to double down on the former and remedy the latter...
                                Thanks for that. So more player/position specific, skills specific than best 22 game plan, strategies?

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